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  • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

    Originally posted by JumboElliott
    I think they would have won in 97 if they got the stick around, because Maurice Greene and Tim Montgomery would have run in the finals.
    Faster athletes haven't made much of a difference where handling the stick is concerned.

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    • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

      There are very few examples of a team with less foot speed beating a faster one without a baton being dropped. The only time I can think of it happening for gold is 2004.

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      • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

        Jamaica might have had equal or more speed than the US in 2007. not 100% though...

        Edit: They had equal foot speed in 2007 with the 4 that ran on each team...

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        • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

          In that year, USA had better overall speed. It was close though. Tyson running the curve on the relay changed my views on relay selection.

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          • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

            Originally posted by JumboElliott
            In that year, USA had better overall speed. It was close though. Tyson running the curve on the relay changed my views on relay selection.
            if by overall speed you mean amount of runner to select from, then yea, leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else...

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            • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

              Originally posted by rsb2
              The Canuck relay squad was pretty damned good in the mid-'90's. Gold in 1994 Commonwealth Games, 1995 Worlds, 1996 Olympics and 1997 Worlds. As pointed out, having a couple of 9.84 guys (Surin and Bailey) running 3rd and 4th put a lot of pressure on other teams. And although Glenroy Gilbert was only a 10.10 guy, he was much better than that, storming down the backstretch in the relay. Summary position = even if the Americans did get the baton around at Worlds in 1995 and 1997, gold would still be a tough go.
              Bronze in '93 also.

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              • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

                Originally posted by DrJay
                Anyone have a nice little list of all the US men's 4x1 WC and OG performances over the last 20-30 years? Mostly keen to know the actual # of times they've blown an exchange.
                Code:
                year  men    women
                83               dnq heat 44.20
                88   dq final
                McNeill to C Smith out of zone
                91               dnf heat C Guidry to E Jones pass, baton dropped
                95   dnf heat             Drummond to McCall pass not completed
                97   dnf heat             B Lewis to T Montgomery pass not completed
                01   both won, but later drug DQ'd 
                04                dnf final -- pass from M Jones to L Williams botched
                05   dnf heat                  M Scales to L Scott pass not completed
                08   dnf heat dq heat    D Patton to T Gay pass not completed; L Williams dropped baton
                09   dq heat  dnf heat   S Crawford to D Patton pass too early; Muna Lee injured
                11   dnf final                Aikines-Aryeetey knocked D Patton over
                Sorry about that formatting; the spaces don't come out right with fixed-width.

                The women also have 11 golds, including a World Record, three silvers and a bronze.
                The men have 10 golds, including three World Records, and four silvers.
                2008-2011, only one team finished the final, '11 women getting gold.
                Cheers,
                Alan Shank
                Woodland, CA

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                • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

                  Originally posted by ATK
                  Jamaica might have had equal or more speed than the US in 2007. not 100% though...

                  Edit: They had equal foot speed in 2007 with the 4 that ran on each team...
                  Usain Bolt blew it for Jamaica in 2007 when he committed the cardinal sin of switching the from his left hand to his right hand.

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                  • Re: World Relays- Men's 4x100

                    Originally posted by jazzcyclist
                    Originally posted by ATK
                    Jamaica might have had equal or more speed than the US in 2007. not 100% though...

                    Edit: They had equal foot speed in 2007 with the 4 that ran on each team...
                    Usain Bolt blew it for Jamaica in 2007 when he committed the cardinal sin of switching the from his left hand to his right hand.
                    Yup, and even when he does it on the anchor now and breaks WRs, I still find it pretty ridiculous.

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