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  • EPelle
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    >A lot rests on what Jacobsson can do on his leg - their weakest.

    Jacobsson did not run the final. Hats off to the MN team.

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  • bellows23
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    >I'm not thinking that Minnesota has that good a chance at the surprise this
    >year. Last year the times in the final ranged from 3:02.01 to 3:07.23.

    This
    >year's PRELIMS ranged from 3:01.87 to 3:04.50. With the lower times comes less
    >of a chance to surprise rather than more, IMHO.

    But there is a caveat there.
    >With so many sub-46 guys in the field, somebody could light off with a low 44
    >career best right out of the blue. But for Minnesota to actually win, I'm just
    >not seeing it. Unless Baylor is significantly behind after the second leg, it's
    >going to be extremely hard to beat them without a Baylor screwup or injury.


    I guess they did have a chance after all. Congrats
    to Baylor and Minnesota.

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  • ycn
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    I'm not thinking that Minnesota has that good a chance at the surprise this year. Last year the times in the final ranged from 3:02.01 to 3:07.23.

    This year's PRELIMS ranged from 3:01.87 to 3:04.50. With the lower times comes less of a chance to surprise rather than more, IMHO.

    But there is a caveat there. With so many sub-46 guys in the field, somebody could light off with a low 44 career best right out of the blue. But for Minnesota to actually win, I'm just not seeing it. Unless Baylor is significantly behind after the second leg, it's going to be extremely hard to beat them without a Baylor screwup or injury.

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  • Pego
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    I never thought of myself as being "jingoistic", but this is impressive. In the men 200, the Olympic "A" qualifier was not enough to advance from the NCAA heats. Blows my mind.

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  • bhartson
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    As a Baylor ex, my loyalty is obvious, however the team will have it's work cut out for them. With an 800m runner(Fitts) leading off, a freashman football player (Davis) running on the "A" team for the first time this season, those two guys will have to stay calm, and at the top of their game. If Baylor is close, within 10m of the lead after the first 2 legs, I'll put my money on Wariner and Williamson. No matter how it works out, we're gonna see on hell of a final. Note: Davis' father Bruce was a 100m, 200m sprinter at Baylor '81-'84 and an All American in track, so the kid has the genes.

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  • EPelle
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    A lot rests on what Jacobsson can do on his leg - their weakest. Jacobsson is a world championships competitor in his open event, however he is going to have to pull off a big surprise if he is going to run a low 45-split to keep Minnesota in the game heading into the exchange with Potter.

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  • bellows23
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    >FWIW--two fastest heat times in meet history are 3:00.60 by Baylor in '95 and
    >3:00.79 by USC in '92.

    Baylor ran 3:01.57 to win, USC ran 3:00.58 for 2nd in
    >the final. There will be some tired bodies come Saturday night.

    If Steele can pull a rabbit out of the hat and
    run like he did last year do think Minnesota has
    any chance to be a surprise winner?

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  • richxx87
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    Valmon and Robinzine were not Bruins, maybe I should have clarified. The alt for that 2:59 UCLA squad.

    And of course, 'bellows23' got it pretty quick, 200m Gold at Barcelona for Mike Marsh.

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  • gh
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    FWIW--two fastest heat times in meet history are 3:00.60 by Baylor in '95 and 3:00.79 by USC in '92.

    Baylor ran 3:01.57 to win, USC ran 3:00.58 for 2nd in the final. There will be some tired bodies come Saturday night.

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  • bellows23
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    I was thinking just individual Olympic champs.
    Forgot about the relays. I would never figured it
    out anyway.

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  • EPelle
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    Kevin Robinzine ran in the final and maybe a heat... I know Andrew Valmon was an alternate who ran the heats. Lewis ran all the rounds and the final.

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  • bellows23
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    mike marsh ?

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  • richxx87
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    The UCLA Bruins of the late 80s had some amazing quarter milers on the 4x400 team, Danny Everett and Steve Lewis both won gold medals in the Seoul 4x4, and both have PRs in open 400 that are still in the world top-10 ... the third leg was a guy named Kevin Young, gold medalist '92 and holder of one of the longest standing world records -- the 400H. And the anchor was Henry Thomas, HS prodigy 45.0, 20.9, 10.25 (strangely he was projected as the star of the group but never won Olympic gold)....

    Now Trivia: Which Olympic gold medalist was an alternate (ran in most heats) on that 4x400 squad?

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  • bellows23
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    >>mine were none of those four [McDonalds, BK, Carls Junior or In N Out], so
    >where's the beef?

    Try Wendy:s!

    Epelle, Took your advice. Just had a double hamburger, small chilli and coke. There went
    the diet. I will start again tommorrow.

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  • EPelle
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    >Baylor's splits:

    (can't vouch for the accuracy of the first two, but I
    >assure you Wariner and Williamson's are dead-on)

    1st leg: 46.4
    2nd leg:
    >46.2
    Wariner: 44.3
    Williamson: 44.9

    From NCAA site (by way of trackshark):

    Unofficial splits:
    Heat 1 - Arizona State 46.6, 44.4, 45.8, 46.0; Texas Tech 46.9, 45.8, 46.9, 45.6; Miss. St. 46.2, 44.8, 45.7, 46.7
    Heat 2 - LSU 46.7, 45.2, 46.1, 44.3; Minnesota 46.6, 45.8, 46.2, 45.0; Florida 47.1, 44.8, 46.9, 45.7
    Heat 3 - Baylor 46.7, 45.9, 44.4, 44.9; Oregon 46.8, 46.0, 45.7, 45.2; UCLA 46.8, 46.8, 47.0, 44.5

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