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    El Toro
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    Originally posted by El Toro View Post
    Jenneke won't make it to the final in the absence of wholesale hurdle destruction,s o she's running for a PB at this stage. If she can get there, it will be a successful meet for her.
    Yeah, not too successful with a 13.01 for 6th in her heat.

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  • AS
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    Hugely pleasant surprise that Starc has made it through to the HJ final with 2.31. Looked in trouble at previous two heights. Junior Baden looked good too and hopefully he can stay healthy for years to come...
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    Last edited by AS; 08-28-2015, 04:39 AM.

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by AS View Post
    We'll agree to disagree.
    I'm agreeig nothin, nothin, I tells ya!

    And I guess we'll get on the same matter agains with discus another wind sensitive event. Good to see both through with Ben sneaking the last spot.

    Patterson will be interesting to watch but how many competitions has she actually had the last two years?

    Stratton not far off her best and only a few centimetres from the final. She will need to mover her reliable performance up into the 6.70s meaning a 6.85 PB to make finals next year. Still, she did beat Rees.

    Not sure about Gregson. I think he was unfortunate to be in a heat with some good tacticians with superior kicks. Ingebritson from Norway with similar PBs to Gregson was also pushed out of Q.

    Wellings, the mobile injury, did qualify by taking advantage of being Heat2. I would be pleased to see her perform well in the final given her age and injury history.

    Jenneke won't make it to the final in the absence of wholesale hurdle destruction,s o she's running for a PB at this stage. If she can get there, it will be a successful meet for her.

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  • AS
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    We'll agree to disagree.

    Pretty decent day session today with both discus men through, Patterson into the HJ final (first Aussie since 1991!), Wellings running better than any other Aussie distance runner for quite a few champs (and defying my rule of thumb that being coached/poached by Bideau pretty much kills anyone's career), and Jenneke off to semis. Stratton did well for 14th in LJ qualifying. Only Gregson was a dud (back to my Bideau theory?).

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  • El Toro
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    [QUOTE=AS;2534467]Are you still convinced of that argument after last night's JT final? [QUOTE]

    I can convince myself of anything, it's convincing other that I have trouble with.

    Throwing in a big stadium is generally more difficult than an open venue where steady winds in the right direction can make a good throw great. A stadium can create detrimental winds quite easily but not really beneficial winds. In most cases, still air is better than strong winds which can flow over and push down on the javelin.

    The large majority of Zelezny's big throws, including the WR were in small scale locations. It's a rare thing to exceed 90m in an enclosed stadium, so Yego's performance is spectacular and, as far as I can tell, it's the best enclosed stadium performance with Zelezny next at 92.12m in Tokyo (presuming '64 Olympic stadium).

    Jan did throw further at Edmonton WC but this was a very small stadium with substantially open ends.

    That's a long winded way to say yes, I still believe that Peacock performed well against a high quality field at around his best ever standard as did the final field with everybody down a couple of metre on their PBs(except Yego).

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  • AS
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    Originally posted by El Toro View Post
    A bit harsh on Peacock. His PB and all previous have been set in open stadia. To hit two 79s in qualifying in the birdsnest is really PB territory equivalent to his 83m.
    Are you still convinced of that argument after last night's JT final?

    I wasn't implying that Peacock had massively underperformed. He came in as around 15-20th best, and that's how it played. I was merely pointing out that Aussie throwers have typically struggled to reproduce 80+ form at this level. Peacock has done a much better job in Europe this year than most past Aussie throwers...

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  • AS
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    Originally posted by El Toro View Post
    However, I suspect he'll have to step it up another foot to do the same in Rio.
    The results from London were: 1. 8.31, 2. 8.16, 3. 8.12

    So 8.54 could be overkill...

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by AS View Post
    WOW, Lapierre's silver is a huge surprise. Nice series and a great outcome for the veteran campaigner...
    Yeah, he found a bit of spark to take advantage of the wide open field. I was concerned he might not make the final so don't take any notice of my predictions. However, I suspect he'll have to step it up another foot to do the same in Rio.

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  • AS
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    WOW, Lapierre's silver is a huge surprise. Nice series and a great outcome for the veteran campaigner...Continues the Australian tradition of major champs LJ silver... joins Theo Bruce (1948), Gary Honey (1984), Jai Taurima (2000) and Mitchell Watt (2011/2012) as OG/WC silver medallists.
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    Last edited by AS; 08-25-2015, 02:25 PM.

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by AS View Post
    Indeed. Nice to see her buck the trend (unlike Breen, Wells etc).

    Peacock continues the woeful outcomes for Aussie male JTers at World Champs too...Only Bannister has ever thrown over 80m...
    A bit harsh on Peacock. His PB and all previous have been set in open stadia. To hit two 79s in qualifying in the birdsnest is really PB territory equivalent to his 83m.

    Breen has crueled her chances with AA permanently I think after such a woeful run. It can't have been fitness, her technical phases just collapsed completely. Wells seems to have hit her maximum of 55 high, 56 low and has no progression left. She could continue to dominate the wasteland of Australian 400H for the next decade but should give a serious rethink to her coaching/training arrangements if she continues as should Breen.

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  • AS
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    Originally posted by Vault-emort View Post
    Yeah it's a rare occurence when Boyd performs reasonably in a world-class competition.
    Indeed. Nice to see her buck the trend (unlike Breen, Wells etc).

    Peacock continues the woeful outcomes for Aussie male JTers at World Champs too...Only Bannister has ever thrown over 80m...

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  • Vault-emort
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    Yeah it's a rare occurence when Boyd performs reasonably in a world-class competition.

    Good to see the only PB so far came from a roll-down competitor..

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by AS View Post
    It's been a poor champs for the Aussies thus far.
    Yeah, it's been pretty woeful and I've been avoiding any commentary in this thread for that reason. However, Dani Samuels is in the final, Alanna Boyd didn't NH in qualifying and WJT is still to come. I might avago at it tomorrow if I have time.

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by AS View Post
    As only six Aussie women EVER have broken 2.30,
    While that may be true, haven't they have generally had long careers, so almost continuous coverage by somebody over the last 20 years? I'm too lazy to check myself, so if you feel up to it to prove me wrong....

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  • AS
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    It's been a poor champs for the Aussies thus far (especially on the track), so nice to see a PB from Rubie in her 400m heat. 51.69 takes her to #16 Aussie all-time, passing Gainsford-Taylor, Rendina and Cuthbert along the way. And as she squeezed into the semis she'll get another chance to climb the list. #10 is 51.32...

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