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    Maton did it. 3:59.38!

  • #2
    Was just posting it on HS thread - wow...

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    • #3
      How exciting. Congrats to Mr. Maton, even though he a tad on the old side for a high schooler.

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      • #4
        I congratulate him for becoming number 6 HS'er to go sub-4:00, BUT....

        his mark is a bit diluted if compared to Wiltrout's JT HSR, for example.

        She would rate 20th A-T Collegiate, and DOES rank 21st A-T US.

        Maton's mark might not make the Top 100 A-T Collegiate list!
        And he'd rank even worse on the A-T US list (even if you do it for OUTdoor only!).

        Also, isn't he already 19 years old?
        That's the age of a College Frosh....or even a College Soph!!

        Now if Grant Fisher went sub-4:00 this year.......!!!

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        • #5
          Finishes behind Oregon seniors Jenkins and Geoghegan (nice results for them, too) among 15 finishers and looks to be the 430th sub-4 mile at Hayward Field.

          1. Eric Jenkins, Sr. Oregon...3:57.09
          2. Will Geoghegan, Sr. Oregon...3:57.53
          3. Matthew Maton, Unat...3:59.38

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aaronk View Post
            ...his mark is a bit diluted if compared to Wiltrout's JT HSR, for example....
            Not really. 2 different events and different achievements. Maton didn't set a record, but it was not a surprise that he broke 4, given his previous race. However, his achievement will probably get more recognition because of the wider recognition of a "sub-4 mile" than the women's JT.

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            • #7
              Maton is #442 on the U.S. sub-4:00 list.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by aaronk View Post
                I congratulate him for becoming number 6 HS'er to go sub-4:00, BUT....

                his mark is a bit diluted if compared to Wiltrout's JT HSR, for example…..
                Taking nothing away from Wiltrout's accomplishment, but you may well be wrong on that one, considering that the current javelin didn't become mandated for HS use until ’02, and that only a small number of states contest the event anyway.

                Compare that with the long history of the mile and how many tens of thousands of HS boys have tried one, and I suspect there's actually no comparison between the two.

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                • #9
                  He is a bit older (turned 19 in March) than many HS seniors, but wherever he happens to be in the school process, he is making a good progression. In the mile, he ran 4:11.09 in 2013, 4:03.23 last year, and now this 3:59. At 1500, he ran 3:55.12 in 2013, 3:49.38 last year, and 3:42.54 a few weeks ago. Also has a 1:51.81 from a week ago. One very smart thing he has done for his distance running career is to choose his parents well: His mother is Michelle Dekkers (Maton), 1988 NCAA XC champion (& XC all-american in 1989 & 1990, iirc). A memorable XC runner. I think his father is Jim Maton, whom I don't recall, but all-athletics.com tells me in 1987 he was 2nd at NCAA indoors (1km) and 3rd outdoors (800m), with a best (in that competition) of 1:46.90. No doubt there is someone reading these forums who knows these folks well.

                  Congratulations to him and hopes for him to continue his progress!

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                  • #10
                    Jim Maton was a 1:46.75 performer for Eastern Illinois; twice scoredin th NCAA Outdoor.

                    I'm not sure, by the way, that 19-year-old HS seniors (at least by the end of the year) aren't about as prevalent as 18-year-old ones these days. Has definitely been a major change in that since the days when I rode my dinosaur to high school.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gh View Post
                      -year-old HS seniors (at least by the end of the year) aren't about as prevalent as 18-year-old ones these days
                      19yo HS graduates are still a very small minority, but it is indeed a growing number, as parents seek to gain an advantage by holding kids back one year before HS.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                        19yo HS graduates are still a very small minority, but it is indeed a growing number, as parents seek to gain an advantage by holding kids back one year before HS.
                        There are other reasons to hold kids back besides sports.

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                        • #13
                          Pulling out last year's copy of HS Track and checking the boys, I find that these events had the list leader born in '95 (i.e., turned 19 during the year at some point)
                          100
                          200
                          400
                          DT (not leader, but first senior)
                          HT

                          to me, that's more than a "very small minority"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gh View Post
                            Pulling out last year's copy of HS Track and checking the boys, I find that these events had the list leader born in '95 (i.e., turned 19 during the year at some point)
                            100
                            200
                            400
                            DT (not leader, but first senior)
                            HT

                            to me, that's more than a "very small minority"
                            It is NOT uncommon to turn 19 AFTER graduation. There is HALF a year to turn 19 after graduation.

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                            • #15
                              times and local customs have changed, of course, but backwhen I was a lad, if you turned 19 during the year of your graduation it meant you had failed a year and had to repeat it. (does that quaint custom even exist anymore?)

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