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    Gebrucilassie
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    Thank you. I think we are often very hard on track athletes. My own running has had ups and downs over the years. While I've never been anything other than a mediocre , it's hard to recreate the good years and often I have no explanation other than my body just won't respond the same. Perhaps the pro's really aren't all that different from us in that regard. Either way I pull for them and appreciate the great performances as much as I suffer their poor ones.

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  • bruce3404
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    Thanks for your input, Gebrucilassie. Anyone who has ever met Andy would agree that he's one of the nicest people on the planet. It hurts me to see his career flounder as it has, but if it truly is the end of the line for him, he's done more than 99.9999999% of track athletes could ever dream to do with two Olympic teams, World's teams, NCAA titles, etc. I'd love to see him re-discover the magic, but it's more important to me that he lead a happy life much as he's helped local youth to better their lives as a Big Brother. Sorry if this seems a bit maudlin.

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  • Cannon
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    Originally posted by Gebrucilassie View Post
    I think the thoughts on why has hasn't improved are kind of flawed. College is such a structured setting. Classes a certain time, practice a certain time, everything is set out for the athlete. It is often hard to for younger people in the general work force to adjust to post collegiate life, let alone an athlete. AW had everything fall into place for him at Oregon. But since then has fought injuries which can challenge the confidence of the best of us. Having met him a few years ago I can tell you that I found him to be a down to earth, honest, good guy. I'm hoping his health and confidence return. definitely one of the most talented prospects to emerge in the US in the last 30 years.
    Gebrucilasse...nice review re: Wheating, agree w/ all your points.

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  • Gebrucilassie
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    I think the thoughts on why has hasn't improved are kind of flawed. College is such a structured setting. Classes a certain time, practice a certain time, everything is set out for the athlete. It is often hard to for younger people in the general work force to adjust to post collegiate life, let alone an athlete. AW had everything fall into place for him at Oregon. But since then has fought injuries which can challenge the confidence of the best of us. Having met him a few years ago I can tell you that I found him to be a down to earth, honest, good guy. I'm hoping his health and confidence return. definitely one of the most talented prospects to emerge in the US in the last 30 years.

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  • Alan Shank
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    Originally posted by Jacksf View Post
    Wheating - last at the NY Diamond League 800m in 1:47.75
    And, on June 8, 7th in 1:49.72 in the Jerome Classic.
    Clearly, he should have to earn his way back into DL meets.
    Cheers,
    Alan Shank

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  • Jacksf
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    Originally posted by tgs3 View Post
    You way overstating what he said in the interview.
    REALLY?!???!! what video did you watch?!

    "I think in the last few years I've kind of been under the impression that talent can do most of the work."
    "that I was great because I was talented....and you can't rely on talent your whole life, you have to eventually do the work, and not to say I wasn't working, but it was just kind of like I was put into it and I did it for the sake of having to accomplish it."
    "To be honest ... I got a little bit of a big-head on myself....I kind of lost focus like I said, and I think it just took somebody who doesn't tolerate that crap, coach Rollin."
    Jacksf
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    Last edited by Jacksf; 06-16-2015, 03:34 AM.

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  • bruce3404
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    He both deserved and received a fat contract from Nike upon graduation. Unlike many other athletes who are on year to year contracts and HAVE to perform, perhaps that big contract Andy signed worked against him. I'd sure like to see him make me eat my words.

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  • tgs3
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    Originally posted by Jacksf View Post
    For the past few years, he hasn't been working hard and he hasn't been focused - he admits that himself.
    You way overstating what he said in the interview.

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  • Jacksf
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    For the past few years, he hasn't been working hard and he hasn't been focused - he admits that himself. His incredible talent allowed him to be successful at the collegiate level, and he thought he could get by on that talent and just the standard amount of work at the international level. Again he admits that himself in the video posted earlier.

    Talent itself isn't enough to be successful at the top level of any sport; and sometimes a lot of talent can be a detriment because an athlete can get used to being successful without working as hard as less talented athletes.

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  • bruce3404
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    His regression from college is dis-heartening. Sure, there have been a multitude of injuries, along with a few successes, and much as I hate to say it, perhaps it's time to acknowledge that he'll never be the Andy Wheating of 2010, but let's first see what he can do at USATF in a few weeks.

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  • Jacksf
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    Wheating - last at the NY Diamond League 800m in 1:47.75

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  • Jacksf
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    watch the video . . . .

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  • NotDutra5
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    Oh there's confirmation of something here.

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  • Jacksf
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    HA!!!
    Was looking for a video of Wheating's last race and came across this:
    http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251...r#.VW02h-vye20

    Go to 2:52 of the video and listen to Andrew, who basically admits that he hasn't been training hard enough the past few years, and lacked focus. Then go back and read my first post. I'm right on the money in my assessment of Wheating!!!
    Thank you Andrew for confirming my impression!
    Jacksf
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    Last edited by Jacksf; 06-02-2015, 06:08 AM.

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  • Jacksf
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    I hope he reads this too. Maybe it will piss him off enough to prove me wrong.
    That would be fine.
    But for now, I think he is a big disappointment.
    A guy with that much talent....to perform so pedestrianly....I just think it must be a motivation/determination/work ethic issue.
    I also have the impression that he hasn't run a full season in years. But would have to check to see if that impression is fact.

    Meanwhile, are you saying he is tough based on his collegiate career? Because I wouldn't disagree with you there. But since college, I haven't seen any toughness/competitiveness.
    I didn't say he wasn't nice. I'm not judging him as a person. I'm judging him as a competitor.

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