Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

[gh]

latest IAAF ranks are out and Webb goes from 49th to 23rd. Those ahead of him (sorry about the bad format; doesn't cut and paste well):

1.
(1.)
Hicham EL GUERROUJ 
74
MAR
1406

2.
(2.)
Paul KORIR 
77
KEN
1349

3.
(3.)
Ivan HESHKO 
79
UKR
1343

4.
(4.)
Bernard LAGAT 
74
KEN
1341

5.
(5.)
Alex KIPCHIRCHIR 
84
KEN
1317

6.
(7.)
Rui SILVA 
77
POR
1292

7.
(8.)
Benjamin KIPKURUI 
80
KEN
1285

8.
(11.)
Juan Carlos HIGUERO 
78
ESP
1283

9.
(9.)
Isaac SONGOK KIPRONO 
84
KEN
1282

10.
(6.)
Cornelius CHIRCHIR 
83
KEN
1278

11.
(12.)
Robert RONO 
78
KEN
1276

12.
(10.)
William CHIRCHIR 
79
KEN
1263

13.
(13.)
Vyacheslav SHABUNIN 
69
RUS
1262

14.
(15.)
Gert Jan LIEFERS 
78
NED
1259

14.
(14.)
Laban ROTICH 
69
KEN
1259

16.
(21.)
Timothy KIPTANUI 
80
KEN
1236

17.
(16.)
Fouad CHOUKI 
78
FRA
1235

18.
(17.)
Reyes ESTÉVEZ 
76
ESP
1228

19.
(21.)
Michael EAST 
78
GBR
1220

20.
(18.)
Sergio GALLARDO 
79
ESP
1213

21.
(20.)
Abdelkader HACHLAF 
79
MAR
1203

22.
(19.)
Youssef BABA 
79
MAR
1201

23.
(49.)
Alan WEBB 
83
USA
1190

full ranks at
http://www.iaaf.org/worldrankings/index.html

[Cyril]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

Wow. I wonder if he gets the olympic gold if he that would be enough to give him top ten.

Fastest time in the world and only a 23? What am I missing? I wouldn't expect him to be in the top 5 but come on - he just beat most of those in front of him.

Well, I guess in a way its nice - he's still an underdog.

[malmo]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>latest IAAF ranks are out and Webb goes from 49th to 23rd. Those ahead of him
>(sorry about the bad format; doesn't cut and paste
>well):

Garry, you ...you...CUT-AND-PASTED... this...this, intellectual property, a masterwork of "value-added formatting?"

Strap up the jack boots! Kevlar vests! Body Armour! Night goggles! Kick in the doors! Copyright police! Down on the floors! Nobody move!

[EPelle]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

Malmo, it must be 5 O:Clock somewhere.

[pre1320]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

I think what you are missing is that the IAAF rankings are based on a point system that goes back one year and assigns points based on performances which are weighted according to the status of the meet.(Golden League, GP II, etc.) You can read all about it on their website. It isn't much like T&FN's rankings which are based on times, head-to-head meetings, and honors won. So it isn't necessarily who's on top at the moment.

[tafnut]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

Not much different from tennis where you can be the hottest player on the planet and not be in the top 10.

[Husky Dude]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

No Malmo unlike you gh cut and pasted with attribution and only did a sampling of the whole piece

[MJD]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>No Malmo unlike you gh cut and pasted with attribution and only did a sampling
>of the whole piece

Don't know why it cut and pasted so well for me:

1. (1.) Hicham EL GUERROUJ 74 MAR 1406
2. (2.) Paul KORIR 77 KEN 1349
3. (3.) Ivan HESHKO 79 UKR 1343
4. (4.) Bernard LAGAT 74 KEN 1341
5. (5.) Alex KIPCHIRCHIR 84 KEN 1317
6. (7.) Rui SILVA 77 POR 1292
7. (8.) Benjamin KIPKURUI 80 KEN 1285
8. (11.) Juan Carlos HIGUERO 78 ESP 1283
9. (9.) Isaac SONGOK KIPRONO 84 KEN 1282
10. (6.) Cornelius CHIRCHIR 83 KEN 1278
11. (12.) Robert RONO 78 KEN 1276
12. (10.) William CHIRCHIR 79 KEN 1263
13. (13.) Vyacheslav SHABUNIN 69 RUS 1262
14. (15.) Gert Jan LIEFERS 78 NED 1259
14. (14.) Laban ROTICH 69 KEN 1259
16. (21.) Timothy KIPTANUI 80 KEN 1236
17. (16.) Fouad CHOUKI 78 FRA 1235
18. (17.) Reyes ESTÉVEZ 76 ESP 1228
19. (21.) Michael EAST 78 GBR 1220
20. (18.) Sergio GALLARDO 79 ESP 1213
21. (20.) Abdelkader HACHLAF 79 MAR 1203
22. (19.) Youssef BABA 79 MAR 1201
23. (49.) Alan WEBB 83 USA 1190


23 out of 50 is slightly more than an excerpt by the way.

[Powell]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

gh just reformatted it, so he wouldn't need to worry about copyright issues :-P

[Realist]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>>Don't know why it cut and pasted so well for
>me:>>

Seems obvious don't it: gh uses a piece of shit Mac.

[Cyril]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>I think what you are missing is that the IAAF rankings are based on a point
>system that goes back one year and assigns points based on performances which
>are weighted according to the status of the meet

O.K. that makes sense. However, that is kind of stupid (meaningless). Who really cares about how the athlete has been over the last 12 months? We care about how the athlete is doing during the current season - or even the current calendar year. If this was evaluated certainly Alan would be at the top.

[MJD]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

O.K. that makes
>sense. However, that is kind of stupid (meaningless). Who really cares about
>how the athlete has been over the last 12 months?

Problem with that is that the season has really just started. If you just look at the current season, Webb would probably be ranked ahead of El G. That doesn't make any sense either. The list is what it is and everyone understands the criteria. We also all know that, at this point, he has the fastest time of the current year and that fact also is what it is. I better watch it though, I might get fired as his publicist.

[malmo]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>No Malmo unlike you gh cut and pasted with attribution and only did a sampling
>of the whole piece

You're serious? Sorry pal, I don't cut and paste without attribution.

[Cyril]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

>Problem with that is that the season has really just started. If you just
>look at the current season, Webb would probably be ranked ahead of El G. That
>doesn't make any sense either.

I would say that makes more sense. Yes, Webb has been the best miler this year. Its simple. Now, when El G. (or someone else) beats him and/or run faster, they would make that claim.

Yes, we know what the criteria for the current rankings are, but what is it really good for? What if El G. wasn't even running at all this year? He would still be ranked #1 off of last year. This just seems silly.

Its not like tennis with the GS and other minor tournaments. In tennis the best only get the opportunity to play head to head a few times during a year. In track you have the opportunity week in and week out to run head to head against 8-10 of the best in the world - and time tells a huge part of the story - there is no time in tennis.

[Powell]

Re: Webb Jumps 26 Places In IAAF Rankings

In any case, it takes more than 2 good races to get to the top of the rankings. Your 6 best performances during the last 12 months count. If Webb continues running at this level, he will be top 10 - but he needs a few more races, preferably on the GP circuit.

Also, to put his performance into a bit of a perspective: 13 men ran faster than 3:32.74 last year. So he still hasn't shown the level which would GUARANTEE a top 10 ranking.