Team USA

[Atticus]

Time to sort out the mess of who is on the team and who is chasing marks, and who has the byes. This

http://toplist.leichtathletik-mehrkampf.de/

from another thread, is a GREAT tool, but doesn't address the chasing aspects (or am I being obtuse?).

Any thoughts/info?

[donley2]

Time to sort out the mess of who is on the team and who is chasing marks, and who has the byes. This

http://toplist.leichtathletik-mehrkampf.de/

from another thread, is a GREAT tool, but doesn't address the chasing aspects (or am I being obtuse?).

Any thoughts/info?

That is not really that tools purpose. I would assume an upcoming track newsletter would address it to some extent. I am personally still trying to get GH to admit that he and his magazine may have goofed about Pan Am Games as a qualifier as that appears to not be true.

[player]

There are three track events in which chasing is on the agenda: men's 1500m and 5000m, and women's 1500m. There is one other track event, men's 10000m, that is "chase affected".

M 1500m: Andrews and Manzano are chasing. Next in line are Blankenship (Q), Wheating (no Q), Merber (Q).

M 5000m: True is chasing. Next in line is Heath (Q).

M 10000m: Top 3 have the Q but True says he will not run if his 5k chase is successful. Next in line is Kipchirchir (Q).

Women's 1500m: Four spots total because Simpson has wild card. Gallagher and Johnson are chasing. Next in line are Schneider (no Q), Moser (Q), Kampf (Q).

Besides successfully chasing the time, an alternate qualifying method is to win the pertinent event at the NACAC champs. Spots are offered in order of finish to two athletes; as spots are declined, offer goes to next in line.

That's it for track. Will let one of field mavens do that side if so desire.

[gh]

...I am personally still trying to get GH to admit that he and his magazine may have goofed about Pan Am Games as a qualifier as that appears to not be true.

Unfortunately, you are 100% correct. Still unclear how we got that from some info USATF gave us early in the year. But buck stops here, and we clearly screwed it up.

[donley2]

Unfortunately, you are 100% correct. Still unclear how we got that from some info USATF gave us early in the year. But buck stops here, and we clearly screwed it up.

Absolutely no big deal for us pure fans, what I was concerned about was actual athletes. I am clearly hoping they got good info when national team sign ups happened. I would think multiple field eventers would have signed up for NACAC potentially.

[Atticus]

There are three track events in which chasing is on the agenda:
M 1500m: Andrews and Manzano are chasing.
M 5000m: True is chasing.

Gotta think they'll both be successful.

Thanks!

[unclezadok]

Gotta think they'll both be successful.

Thanks!

I hope you're right. But I can't see Andrews doing it.

[Alan Shank]

I hope you're right. But I can't see Andrews doing it.

He ran 3:34.78 back in 2012 in one of those "High Performance" meets in Eagle Rock (Oxy?), so he's clearly capable and just has to get into the right paced race. He had a sub-1:46 in New York and ran a 52.13 last 400 in a race just 2.55 seconds off the qual time. I will be surprised should he not make it.
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[gm]

2015 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS – TEAM USA
(athletes in parentheses have NOT met the WC standard)

MEN
100 – Tyson Gay, Trayvon Bromell, Mike Rodgers, Justin Gatlin (wildcard)
200 – Justin Gatlin, Isiah Young, Wallace Spearmon
400 – David Verburg, LaShawn Merritt (wildcard), Vernon Norwood, Bryshon Nellum
800 – Nick Symmonds, Erik Sowinski, Casimir Loxsom
1500 – Matthew Centrowitz, (Robby Andrews), (Leonel Manzano), Ben Blankenship, Kyle Merber (6th)
3000SC – Evan Jager, Donn Cabral, Daniel Huling
5000 – Ryan Hill, (Ben True), Galen Rupp, Garrett Heath
10,000 – Galen Rupp, Ben True, Hassan Mead
110H – David Oliver (wildcard), Ronnie Ash, Aries Merritt, Aleec Harris
400H – Bershawn Jackson, Johnny Dutch, Kerron Clement, Michael Tinsley (wildcard)
20K Walk – (John Nunn), (Nick Christie), (Patrick Stroupe)
50K Walk – John Nunn, (Nick Christie), (Patrick Stroupe)
HJ – Erik Kynard, JaCorian Duffield, Jesse Williams
PV – Sam Kendricks, Brad Walker, Jake Blankenship
LJ – Marquis Dendy, Jeff Henderson, Mike Hartfield
TJ –Omar Craddock, Will Claye, Marquis Dendy, Christian Taylor (wildcard)
SP – Joe Kovacs, Christian Cantwell, Jordan Clarke, Reese Hoffa (wildcard)
DT – Jared Schuurmans, (Russ Winger), (Andrew Evans), Rodney Brown, Chase Madison (7th)
HT – Kibwe Johnson, Conor McCullough, A.G. Kruger
JT – Sean Furey, (Riley Dolezal), (Sam Crouser), Tim Glover
Dec – Trey Hardee, Joseph Taiwo, Zach Ziemek, Ashton Eaton (wildcard)

WOMEN
100 – Tori Bowie, English Gardner, Jasmine Todd
200 – Jenna Prandini, Candyce McGrone, Jeneba Tarmoh, Allyson Felix (wildcard)
400 – Allyson Felix, Natasha Hastings, Phyllis Francis
800 – Alysia Montano, Brenda Martinez, Ajee Wilson
1500 – Jenny Simpson (wildcard), Shannon Rowbury, (Keri Gallagher), Treniere Moser (6th)
3000SC – Emma Coburn, Stephanie Garcia, Colleen Quigley
5000 – Nicole Tully, Marielle Hall, Abbey D’Agostino
10,000 – Molly Huddle, Shalane Flanagan, Emily Infeld
100H – Dawn Harper-Nelson, Keni Harrison, Sharika Nelvis, Brianna Rollins (wildcard)
400H – Shamier Little, Cassandra Tate, Kori Carter
20K Walk – Miranda Melville, Maria Michta-Coffey, (Katie Burnett)
HJ – (Chaunte Lowe), (Liz Patterson), (Amy Acuff)
PV – Jenn Suhr, Sandi Morris, Demi Payne
LJ – Tianna Bartoletta, Brittney Reese (wildcard), Janay DeLoach, Jasmine Todd
TJ – (Christina Epps), (April Sinkler), (Keturah Orji)
SP – Michelle Carter, Tia Brooks, Jeneva Stevens
DT – Gia Lewis-Smallwood, Whitney Ashley, Shelbi Vaughan
HT – Amber Campbell, Deanna Price, Amanda Bingson
JT – Kara Winger, Brittany Borman, (Hannah Carson)
Hept – Barbara Nwaba, Sharon Day-Monroe, Erica Bougard

[donley2]

So with the list above in hand you can go back to the list at the top of the thread and note that in addition someone like Ariana Ince in the womens javelin or Keturah Orji in the TJ "could" potentially make the team with their current mark. The only missing piece of the puzzle is guys like Russ Winger and Andrew Evans in the Discus throw who also "could" make the team with their current marks but aren't on the list at the top of the thread due to there already being three americans with the auto qualifier. Also someone could win the NACAC meet and have that give them a qualifier.

[polevaultpower]

So what is the deal with Pan Ams?

[donley2]

Gh admitted in another thread Pan Ams does nothing. The valid area champs for the US is the NACAC meet and it says so in the USATF qualifying documents. The south americans already had an area championship and those folks got automatic qualifiers so Pan Am's would be two chances for the south americans so that can't work.

[Al in NYC]

Would the NACAC qualifier go in as a wild card, or does he or she count against the 3 per country limit?

When the IAAF "tops up" the fields from the yearly list of those who haven't met the Q standard, they will only add up to the 3 per country limit (including those already qualified), correct?

[donley2]

Would the NACAC qualifier go in as a wild card, or does he or she count against the 3 per country limit?

When the IAAF "tops up" the fields from the yearly list of those who haven't met the Q standard, they will only add up to the 3 per country limit (including those already qualified), correct?

In both cases the 3 per country limit is honored.

[Al in NYC]

In both cases the 3 per country limit is honored.

Would an NACAC winner take precedence over those from the list who have a better mark?

Does the IAAF decide that? Or could USATF decide to send an American with a better (non Q) mark rather than an American NACAC winner?