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  • Jon
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    >I can't think of one instance when a dope-cheat comes back and is
    >anything like their former doped-up self.


    There was a topic about this on the IAAF forum recently. A few names cropped up, including:

    Andrey Mikhnevich
    Violeta Beclea-Szekely
    Yekaterina Podkopayeva
    Carl Myerscough
    Ali Saidi-Sief
    Vita Pavlysh,
    Aleksandr Bagach
    Lyudmila Endquist
    Chioma Ajunwa
    Inessa Kravets
    Vladislav Piskunov
    Mihaela Milente
    Tibor Gecsek
    Svetlana Pospelova

    But half of these were still using when they returned and got life bans (Pavlysh, Bagach, Endquist, Ajunwa, etc....). So if druggies want to return to their best after their ban, the message is simple - keep using and go get a life ban!

    Good luck to you, Bryan.

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  • Jon
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    >In either case, I do not believe an athlete would make their way to
    >this board to make an idiot or fool of themself.



    Have you heard of 'malmo'....?

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  • Gold 2 Go
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    I do not believe the poster was the stated person in question, namely Mr. Bryan Bronson. Either the alleged poster committed libel or his name is also Bryan Bronson. In either case, I do not believe an athlete would make their way to this board to make an idiot or fool of themself.

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  • satch400
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    RICE alumni, have I got a graduation SPEAKER for YOU!

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  • Sprintstatman
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    And to think I was defending this guy, assuming it is him posting.

    I take it all back, no need to respect a foul-mouthed idiot who plainly holds no respect for anyone else.

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  • Bill S.
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    GH, maybe you guys can delete all but the first two lines of this thread for obvious reasons.

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  • abinferno
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    Go and slap your worthless parents for not teaching you how to speak or write intelligibly. Cosby was right, and it looks like bryanb agrees, slap the parents.

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  • hj197steve
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    My my, what a charming and intelligent young man. I'm sure he will be a fabulous success in any future endeavors.

    But if he goes around slapping people he'll end up in prison.

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  • bryanb
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    get a life..you saw me at ncaa champion..if your bitch ass had anything to say to me you could have easily spoken and gotten slapped by me at the point..go and slap your worthless parent for not producing an athlete..on my worst day i am better than you..so dont try keeping up with me b/c i most certainly am not wasting my time keeping up with you..i heard about the email and really didn't care to respond b/c you know nothing of what you are speaking..way way off..and you can continue to guess at whatever you thought was going on..again if you have any question or want to get slapped when you see me politely introduce yourself and i will politely slap the shit out of you and we can go from there..take care
    bryan

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  • gr@sshopper
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    >
    He has paid enough for what he has done or was
    supposed to have done.

    That is debatable. He has met the requirements set forth by the powers that be.

    >Even if his career is behind him, doesn't he
    deserve:
    1- RESPECT...
    2-
    >ANOTHER CHANCE IN TRACK (which certainly
    means much more for him.)


    1- NO!
    2- Yes, of course .... the rules as they stand allow for it.

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  • marknhj
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    1. Kindly NEVER use an analogy that likens me to Bush.

    2. It's not just a sport at this level it's a business. Therefore doping is not unlike the illegal business practices of companies such as Enron.

    3. If I was born-again I'd probably agree with your "forgive and forget" ideal; however, I am quite happy with how I was born in the first place.

    4. Had second thoughts; let them back. I can't think of one instance when a dope-cheat comes back and is anything like their former doped-up self. If they do they are inevitably caught again and then banned for life. They then can't persuade their friends, family and fans that they were victims. The shame is therefore much greater.

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  • Sprintstatman
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    >I vote for life bans, I have no desire to watch an athlete who we know has morals that allow him to cheat in the first place

    Mark, you have been around long enough to know that it's not as simple as that. Nothing ever is. People can make stupid mistakes, idiotic decisions that they later regret. I know I have. You sound like George Bush - there's us good guys and them evil guys and no room for anything in between.

    Banning people for life for a first time offence says there can be no forgiveness, no redemption. Cheat once, be always damned. Come on - that is not the sort of world I want to live in.

    It's only a sport, after all.

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  • marknhj
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    It's
    >simple: We all make mistakes, exercise poor judgment etc. but, hopefully, we
    >learn from those poor choices and move on...which I believe Bronson is doing in
    >making this comeback. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt...>>>

    What is of no doubt is that he deliberately took steroids to run faster, place higher and earn more $$$ (and thus take money rightfully earned by someone else). It's a job for these guys, he's coming back in an attempt to make a living again, that's all. I'm getting progressively more angry about these druggies. I vote for life bans, I have no desire to watch an athlete who we know has morals that allow him to cheat in the first place. People who are found to have taken drugs are the most qualified in knowing how effective they are. How many other THGs are there out there that these people could be on?

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  • Gold 2 Go
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    In being a first-time poster today, it seems that reading through previous posts using the search field to get a feel for this board, those athletes who make "mistakes" have never quite been accepted by the hard-core fans who post on different threads on this Track and Field News message board. In light of this current argument of forgiving Bryan Bronson, it seems there is prejudice and negative bias toward athletes and people who make a sincere turn-around (instead of quitting or hiding in shame) after a fall from glory.

    I can see instances when one may not believe the candor displayed by an athlete (i.e.: Ben Johnson and Kami Keshmeri, as two repeat offender examples). However, if a person like Jeff Laynes can make his way back on the radar and not be dogged as has been the case with Mr. Bronson, can it be possible that people just want to give the guy his space and let him get back to his competitions?

    Mr. Bronson has been found guilty of an offense and been punished. Let the man now do his best without the extra hassle.

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  • Since 1956
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    >I don't have a problem with his coming back. He has served his time, as gh
    >said. I still have no idea why I should respect him, though.

    It's simple: We all make mistakes, exercise poor judgment etc. but, hopefully, we learn from those poor choices and move on...which I believe Bronson is doing in making this comeback. I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt...

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