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  • Kevin
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    It is also important to keep in mind that the records are kept not just for a single category. Competitors square off in five-year age groups, each with its own set of records. Real hard-core masters fans also keep track of records for single ages, as well.

    There is nothing to be frightened of. In fact, many masters competitions have hosted "sub-masters" events to cover the bridge years of the thirties, as well.

    As for the rapid decline in performance once 40 has been reached, my own experience was that an errant long jump landing resulted in my knee bending from left to right,instead of the normal front to back, just two months short of 41.

    Glad to see so much discussion devoted to this subject. Track and field SHOULD be a lifelong pursuit. It is wonderful to see people continue to celebrate the joy of simply participating with gusto, long after their best days have passed.

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  • berkeley
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    >IAAF report of meeting included this

    <<Council agreed that the starting age
    >for Men Master athletes could be changed to 35 instead of 40 years of age at
    >the next Congress. This is a way of encouraging more older athletes to stay in
    >the sport and to reinforce the idea that athletics can be a “sport for
    >life”.>>

    I don't think it's such a bad idea, and those in the Masters
    >movement shouldn't either (unless they're afraid of real competition). As it
    >is, I suspect that significant numbers of people give the sport up in their
    >mid-30s because they no longer have an outlet, and after you've been off 5
    >years, tough to come back. This should only make the transition more seamless.

    Agreed. In my first Master's race (at 400), a guy passed me in the homstraight, and after he crossed the line promptly turned and apologised for being under 40. I was very happy he was there to pull me to a better time.

    I don't think it matters a lot whether they are termed Masters or not, but I think it's important to have a 35-40 category, even though there are a few world class over-35 athletes.

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  • berkeley
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    >So this 3:44.89 Luiz Jose Gonsalves (4.12.58) SPAIN Rio de Janeiro 14 June 1999
    >"World Record" may be challenged if Sorensen can stay healthy another two
    >years and 11 months. Sorensen has hovered between 3.41-3.44 the past several
    >years, with last year (3.42 and provisional OT qualifier at 36) and so far this
    >year (3.43) no exception.


    Eamonn Coghlan ran 3:58.15 in 1994, aged 41. I think the en route was around 3:41. Indoors, yes, but I think that adds value rather than the reverse.

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  • gh
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    IAAF report of meeting included this

    <<Council agreed that the starting age for Men Master athletes could be changed to 35 instead of 40 years of age at the next Congress. This is a way of encouraging more older athletes to stay in the sport and to reinforce the idea that athletics can be a “sport for life”.>>

    I don't think it's such a bad idea, and those in the Masters movement shouldn't either (unless they're afraid of real competition). As it is, I suspect that significant numbers of people give the sport up in their mid-30s because they no longer have an outlet, and after you've been off 5 years, tough to come back. This should only make the transition more seamless.

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  • tafnut
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    I didn't really notice a slowdown till 40, but then, hoooo doggies, it's a wild ride after that. You have to work three times as hard to get half the benefit and then there's that little issue of recalcitrant muscles deciding to fray rather than grow. I don't know how Merlene Ottey does it, but she's our idol.

    For Roger (male first name!) to hurdle 42" -ers under 14 is Amazing.

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  • EPelle
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    So this 3:44.89 Luiz Jose Gonsalves (4.12.58) SPAIN Rio de Janeiro 14 June 1999 "World Record" may be challenged if Sorensen can stay healthy another two years and 11 months. Sorensen has hovered between 3.41-3.44 the past several years, with last year (3.42 and provisional OT qualifier at 36) and so far this year (3.43) no exception.

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  • kuha
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    Right. Regardless of what the official decision is, really impressive "mature" performances start at 40, not 35...

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  • highjumpsteve
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    >Will they back date it?

    So Carlos Lopez won the Oly Gold in the Marathon
    >as a masters?

    With the growing list of athletes competing at a very high
    >level into their 40's, especially in the distance races, the movement to 35
    >seems almost absurd.

    On second thought .... Hey I'm already a master runner
    >then (35). Watch out Brian Pope I'm making a come back (LOL).

    Totally agree .... this 35 business is stupid. 40's a good round number for both genders.

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  • 5k Guy
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    Will they back date it?

    So Carlos Lopez won the Oly Gold in the Marathon as a masters?

    With the growing list of athletes competing at a very high level into their 40's, especially in the distance races, the movement to 35 seems almost absurd.

    On second thought .... Hey I'm already a master runner then (35). Watch out Brian Pope I'm making a come back (LOL).

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  • gh
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    IAAF Council at its spring meeting (see T&FN, May) changed men from 40 to 35, to match women. No idea if USATF will follow suit.

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  • 5k Guy
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    "Masterstrack.com does a great job keeping up with the over-40 set"

    Thanks for the website!!! I noticed that Brian Pope (41) is running great. American records of 8:16.94 and 14:17.36 for the 3,000m and 5,000m already this outdoor season. That is not too much slower than his PR's of a dozen years ago. Mother Nature is not winning the battle against him evidently.

    Great to see Brian running so well, he is truely a very talented runner and heck of good guy. I trained with him for several years (88-91) and he was a groomsmen in my wedding.

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  • highjumpsteve
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    >There are 30-34 and 35-39 categories for both men and women, but Masters track
    >is universally understood to be 40+. There is also Seniors Games track which is
    >50+, and is run separately from Masters competitions. When I get to 60, I'm
    >starting Geezer Track. I'm sure I'll make a million in that.

    tafnut, I WON the geezer division at a 5K Trail Run last month. However I also finished last in that division as well.

    1 is a great number !

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  • tafnut
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    There are 30-34 and 35-39 categories for both men and women, but Masters track is universally understood to be 40+. There is also Seniors Games track which is 50+, and is run separately from Masters competitions. When I get to 60, I'm starting Geezer Track. I'm sure I'll make a million in that.

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  • Jon
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    >It's supposed to be 40, but i remember hearing (i think on a TV broadcast)
    >something about "and now women will be able to compete in masters competitions
    >as long as they're over 35 years old, just like the men right
    >now).


    Something to that effect. I don't understand it.




    I think for women, the masters age is 35 but for men it is 40. Some people have been trying to get the men's masters age changed to 35 though.

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  • EPelle
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    1,500m runner Jim Sorensen is 37-years-old, and has run 3.43 this season. I don:t know if he will be considered a masters athlete as of yet.

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