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    No thread so far surely it needs one. What happened to Brazier in the 800?
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    Last edited by gh; 03-12-2016, 04:49 PM.

  • #2
    Looks like back problems.

    Is Ches' 3:52.84 the fastest DMR anchor in college history? I thought I saw a list of fastest legs from Penn at some point but I can't find it right now. When Joe Falcon anchored the collegiate record he ran 3:53.8.

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    • #3
      Wow. They are through the first day and this is the third comment???

      So how much damage to the formchart? What surprises?

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      • #4
        In heat 2 of the 60m, Cameron Burrell broke the meet record and Ronnie Baker tied it right behind him with 6.50 and 6.51 respectively.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dave View Post
          Wow. They are through the first day and this is the third comment???

          So how much damage to the formchart? What surprises?
          Not sure why but Donavan Brazier DNF in the 800.

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          • #6
            Jax Thoirs is the 4th Husky vaulter to win an NCAA title under Pat Licari, 7th title.

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            • #7
              Heck of a double for Cheserek

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
                Heck of a double for Cheserek
                That's putting it mildly. 13:47 then 28 minutes later he does 3:52. Makes Pre's famous double against WSU look almost pedestrian.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cubehead View Post
                  That's putting it mildly. 13:47 then 28 minutes later he does 3:52. Makes Pre's famous double against WSU look almost pedestrian.
                  I would mildly dissent.

                  Steve P's 13:06.4 3 mile converts to 13:34 5000m.

                  Ed C's 3:52.84 1600m with moving start converts to 3:54-mid for the mile. Put that up against Steve P's 3:56.8 and, on the whole, there's little to choose.

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                  • #10
                    What was the rest time for Pre in that double? That's a factor.

                    In my relatively brief research, here's the fastest DMR anchors in college history...

                    3:52.84 Edward Cheserek (Oregon) 2016 NCAA Indoor
                    3:53.0 Kip Cheruiyot (Mt St Mary's) 1989 Penn Relays
                    3:53.29 Andy Bayer (Indiana) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                    3:53.8 Joe Falcon (Arkansas) 1989 Penn Relays
                    3:54.24 Izaik Yorks (Washington) 2016 NCAA Indoor
                    3:54.32 David Bishop (New Mexico) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                    3:54.61 Ben Blankenship (Minnesota) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                    3:54.6 Kevin Sullivan (Michigan) 1995 Penn Relays
                    3:54.9 Mike Stahr (Georgetown) 1987 Penn Relays

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                    • #11
                      Carlton Orange advanced to the 800m final because he was (slightly) impeded when Brazier pulled up on the third lap backstretch. After the incident, Orange entered the last lap in qualifying position (third place) but ran the slowest lap of the entire field to finish fifth in 1:49.08, well off the time qualifier.

                      Don't like seeing this use of the rules. Unless there is a strong case the athlete would have advanced absent the impeding incident, qualifiers should be decided on the track. An extra runner in the finals is a hazard to the health of all athletes in the field.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by player View Post
                        I would mildly dissent.

                        Steve P's 13:06.4 3 mile converts to 13:34 5000m.

                        Ed C's 3:52.84 1600m with moving start converts to 3:54-mid for the mile. Put that up against Steve P's 3:56.8 and, on the whole, there's little to choose.
                        It's also 40 years later so comparisons must take that into consideration.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AyZiggy View Post
                          What was the rest time for Pre in that double? That's a factor.

                          In my relatively brief research, here's the fastest DMR anchors in college history...

                          3:52.84 Edward Cheserek (Oregon) 2016 NCAA Indoor
                          3:53.0 Kip Cheruiyot (Mt St Mary's) 1989 Penn Relays
                          3:53.29 Andy Bayer (Indiana) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                          3:53.8 Joe Falcon (Arkansas) 1989 Penn Relays
                          3:54.24 Izaik Yorks (Washington) 2016 NCAA Indoor
                          3:54.32 David Bishop (New Mexico) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                          3:54.61 Ben Blankenship (Minnesota) 2011 NCAA Indoor
                          3:54.6 Kevin Sullivan (Michigan) 1995 Penn Relays
                          3:54.9 Mike Stahr (Georgetown) 1987 Penn Relays
                          I believe David Kimani had a 3:51 split at the Alabama Relays when he was still running for South Alabama (2000?).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KevinM View Post
                            I believe David Kimani had a 3:51 split at the Alabama Relays when he was still running for South Alabama (2000?).
                            This news account has Kimani's split at 3:52.7. However, as story mentions, team was DQd because, in his eagerness to get started, he took the baton before the beginning of the exchange zone.

                            https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...,5382480&hl=en

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                            • #15
                              Jordan Moore ran most of his 60H race in both lane 5 and 6, hitting multiple hurdles in the other runners lane. Would be surprised if he is not hit with a DQ

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