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  • #16
    Originally posted by DJG
    At this point in time, I would put it this way, Felix wants four Olympic medals in 2016.
    Two of those four, she controls her own destiny, the other two she needs three teammates.


    PS. In no sense will her efforts be a "failure". In no sense at all.
    pssst....it's jamboy...American bad, Jamaica good.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DJG
      Thanks for the heads up, BB.
      There is so much posibillities that Felix can leave from medal-less or up to 4 golds .Personally I think if she decided to double she can leave the 4x100m to the 100m specialist.
      But since she runs the second leg better then most of the ladies (if not all) it will be a huge sacrifice for the Usa team .

      I think beside the schedule which is soo tight what really plays a role in the 400/200 double succes might be more mentally then physically .

      If there is anything that can stop Allyson from running two perfect races at one day with 10 hours rest might be mentally that day . Mentally tiredness can be more draining than physically . My question would be ; Is she mentally strong enough to pull two perfect races with few hours rest ?

      She is not the first person to attempt two runs a day to succeed or fail . But It might take a Warrior to attempt that at olympic while your medals might be at risk

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      • #18
        A question for anyone just out of curiosity, What would the general consensus be if she actually did fail the double (No individual medal + 2 relay silvers)?

        Would she be considered more of a failure, or looked at in a greater light for even attempting it with such a tight schedule?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ATK View Post
          A question for anyone just out of curiosity, What would the general consensus be if she actually did fail the double (No individual medal + 2 relay silvers)?

          Would she be considered more of a failure, or looked at in a greater light for even attempting it with such a tight schedule?
          To make it to olympics for me already is an accomplish . Now if she put a new pb in atleast in one of those individual events or atleast run very close to her best then i would never consider it a failure ( It will be sad to watch tho &#128552 since she probably gave it her all .

          Now what i consider a failure might be technically ( for example having the worst start or by a big mistake not getting a medal or not pacing the race well or choking in finals ).

          Im not convinced she will get the two individual golds at olympic but it takes a strong mind to attempt it again after 2011 disapointment . I think this time she will be stronger and dare even ill say more difficult to beat !!

          Im opt to watch the faces when she runs first round of 200m and the 400m final at Rio .
          ( it can be either moment dissapointment or joy and amazement )
          Last edited by benjastar123; 05-02-2016, 03:38 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ATK View Post
            A question for anyone just out of curiosity, What would the general consensus be if she actually did fail the double (No individual medal + 2 relay silvers)?

            Would she be considered more of a failure, or looked at in a greater light for even attempting it with such a tight schedule?
            I think it would all depend on context. If she runs 49.0/49.1, and is 4th in a tight 4 way finish, then we'll say the 200 prelim took the edge off her finish.

            If she then runs 21.8x, and is 4th in a tight 4 way 200 w/ Schippers, Thompson, & SAFP, we'll say it was cumulative fatigue.

            But in any case, she is attempting a grand and glorious quadruple, and I say bravo for trying. Here's hoping for four medals, preferably all gold.

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            • #21
              Not sure of the audience making the judgement but if she's built up as going for 4 golds and comes away with no individual medals and two relay silvers she'll be looked upon as a failure to the general public. This board is going to look much deeper into her performance before judging.

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              • #22
                Anyone who makes a US Olympic team is not a failure. How can it be a failure just because they fail to meet someone else's expectation?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by benjastar123 View Post
                  ... she runs first round of 200m and the 400m final at Rio .

                  This is the biggest concern. While I realize the 1st round of the 200 is not going to exactly drain her, it's still a hard effort. And it's not difficult to imagine in that 400 final with someone like Miller that could very well be the difference in those final 75 meters. Should Miller(or someone else) break 49 by Rio(or the Trials for that matter) it will be interesting to see if things change for Felix(commercial expectations be damned)
                  There are no strings on me

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by guru View Post
                    This is the biggest concern. While I realize the 1st round of the 200 is not going to exactly drain her, it's still a hard effort. And it's not difficult to imagine in that 400 final with someone like Miller that could very well be the difference in those final 75 meters. Should Miller(or someone else) break 49 by Rio(or the Trials for that matter) it will be interesting to see if things change for Felix(commercial expectations be damned)
                    Why always pick the negative part . Felix had gained her respect and no matter what happen her attempt will not be seen as failure ....

                    To make the olympic team would never be considered a failure itself .

                    Dont get it wrong ; im not saying she will get both individual gold , but this talk reminds me alot of when people say shelly ann could never won the 200m at worlds.I was one of them who said that is nearly impossible for shelly to win both gold ....Since that day i Have learned the lesson .

                    Impossible is always in your head and I will never discount the possibility of her getting all 4 golds . Its just a matter of how hard you train for and no matter how many people failed this kindalike attempt at Olympics ,there is always the First time .

                    What would happen if she leaves medal less? Yes it will disapoint for sure but never considered a failure when someone already made the olympic team

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by guru View Post
                      Should Miller(or someone else) break 49 by Rio(or the Trials for that matter) it will be interesting to see if things change for Felix(commercial expectations be damned)
                      Since 2000 Richards-Ross and Guevara are the only ones to break 49. Breaking 49 is a very very high bar. I personally would be very surprised to see anyone break 49 this year who is not named Felix.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by donley2 View Post
                        Breaking 49 is a very very high bar. I personally would be very surprised to see anyone break 49 this year who is not named Felix.

                        Well Miller is already at 49.69 for the year, and ran a big 100 PR this weekend, so...
                        There are no strings on me

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by donley2 View Post
                          Since 2000 Richards-Ross and Guevara are the only ones to break 49. Breaking 49 is a very very high bar. I personally would be very surprised to see anyone break 49 this year who is not named Felix.
                          That 47.72 relay leg and her proven championship ability tells me she has a mid 48 in her. If Felix can win the very tough U.S. OT 400 I think she can do it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
                            I would think pretty solid if she makes the 200m team and if she doesn't, there's probably a larger issue.
                            Originally posted by DJG
                            If she makes the team she is a lock on both relays. The only way she doesn't run both relays is if she says she doesn't want to.

                            Second leg on th 4x1, anchor on the 4x4.
                            Ah, I thought as much too.

                            It will be interesting to see what happens if Jeter really does return to good form. I assume she'll get anchor as she's so experienced on that leg. In that case, where does Bowie go? I'd be inclined to put her on the backstretch, but I can't really see them putting Felix anywhere else, even though I think Bowie would do more damage there and Felix runs the better curve.

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                            • #29
                              Am I correct in saying that Bowie did not take part in the USA 4x100m relay last year because she did not attend the required practise sessions? Does she intend to change that this year?

                              Felix, Bowie, Jeter + 1 other could go sub 41 again this year

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Liuxuan_rol View Post
                                Am I correct in saying that Bowie did not take part in the USA 4x100m relay last year because she did not attend the required practise sessions? Does she intend to change that this year?

                                Felix, Bowie, Jeter + 1 other could go sub 41 again this year
                                Ask Nike why she didn't run the relay.

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