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  • #16
    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    but wouldn't it be so much greater if their times were seen on official lists??
    T&FN DOES compile 'absolute' lists with those marks on them!
    Anyone who knows anything about T&F statistics knows that the T&FN LISTS are the best ones!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by aaronk View Post
      Let this "broken record" explain it this way---

      Jenny (Barringer) Simpson ran 15:01.70 for the fastest Collegiate time ever INdoors---yet is NOT on any official list, and is NOT considered the CR holder!

      Sophie Cantine ran 2:47.64 for 1000 as a Frosh 3 years ago?
      That "shattered" the Frosh Class record held by Mary Cain---except it didn't!!

      A couple of Men's milers ran sub-3:54's a year or so ago!
      Nowhere to be found on official lists!

      A year ago, Kim Conley ran 15:09, and Allie Ostrander ran 15:21, yet neither name is on any official Top 10 or Top 100 list!!

      And Kate Grace ran purportedly the 10th fastest 3K yesterday!
      Yet, again, invisable to official list checkers!!

      It's great they ran fast---but wouldn't it be so much greater if their times were seen on official lists??

      SOME people care about that!!
      I can appreciate the fact that you, and perhaps others, care about recording times. I don't think the board needs to be reminded of what you care about whenever a meet is held on an oversized track.

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      • #18
        Limited seating (much like their outdoor facility) but at least they have an indoor facility. In one of the pics I linked a saw a few sections of bleachers that had around 5 rows.

        P.S.: Michigan's new facility looks great in the renderings.
        Last edited by BillVol; 01-16-2017, 01:50 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BillVol View Post
          Limited seating (much like their outdoor facility) but at least they have an indoor facility. In one of the pics I linked a saw a few sections of bleachers that had around 5 rows.

          P.S.: Michigan's new facility looks great in the renderings.
          I believe that is a track and field specific facility which means, likely, a 200m track. Most of the OTs are multi-use facilities. It really looks like a beautiful setup.
          Last edited by NotDutra5; 01-16-2017, 02:14 AM.

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          • #20
            The SPIRE facility is a multi-use one but I think that the primary reason for the 300m track was to have a large area for conducting a full meet. The Big Ten has moved the Indoor Championship Meet there the last several years and everyone I talked to loves it. You can have both the men and women at the same time, there is lots of room for everything, etc. I do not think that they are trying to fit it around some non-track stuff. However, clearly a 300m track provides a lot more room for multiple runways so you can be running a big meet with lots of stuff going on all the time.

            I know of a lot of people that do not what to run really hard/fast (mostly applies to top-level athletes for whom fast is really fast) on a Flat 200m track as it is too hard on the body.

            And as far are records go, running on a 300m track (compared to a banked 200), even for a long distance race, provides nothing like the differential between +2.0 wind and 0 or -1.0 wind in the 100, and yet the records throw those all in to the same bin (same with altitude but we stick big red As on those to discourage record seeking).

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            • #21
              Not bad for a school that only has Women's Track & Field!

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