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¶2017 WC mTJ: Christian Taylor (US) 58-¼ (17.68)

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  • #91
    Re commentator's build up for a attempt on the Triple Jump World Record.
    Result: Much ado about nothing.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by DecFan View Post
      On how well the US is doing relative to expectations:

      On the events completed so far, the TFN Formchart (criticized by some as overly optimistic for the Americans) had:
      Gold Silver Bronze
      Men: 5 4 3
      Women: 3 2 3
      Total: 8 6 6

      Actuals:
      Men: 3 4 3
      Women: 3 3 3
      Total: 6 7 6

      So to this point, 20 vs 19 total medals, with women doing a little better than the formchart, men a little worse.

      Bottom line so far: Excellent meet for the US, excellent prognosticating by the TFN panel.
      Very good meet much better than Beijing but not quite as good as rio. The competition between Taylor and claye was great even though the last two jumps were anti climatic.

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      • #93
        Great competition; the top two were almost half a meter above the rest, and then the next four were within about an inch, with three tied to the count back. Claye's series was similar to the Trials (make it about 35 degrees warmer, and maybe have a tailwind). Does this even up the series between the two (I do not count the Trials as a loss for Taylor)?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Jackaloupe View Post
          . What IS the problem with these specialists giving away 10-20 cms. on so many jumps ?!?
          Twas ever so...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Jackaloupe View Post
            Nice new addition is the graphic on the "splits" between the 3 phases. Any available for Edwards, even qualatative/relative. The replay of his WR showed smoothness w/ hardly any stretch at end, with him even finishing upright.

            Hit on, even off board, w/ cms. no less, is most revealing. What IS the problem with these specialists giving away 10-20 cms. on so many jumps ?!?
            Thread on Edward's phases: https://trackandfieldnews.com/discus...-phase-lengths

            From gh:

            two WRs that day:

            18.16: 6.12/5.19/6.85

            18:29: 6.05/5.22/7.02

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            • #96
              Harris said "conditions are perfect." Sigh.

              NBC mentioned "world record" at least 22 times in connection to the triple jump (I counted). It was positively nauseating. Worse than Carl Lewis in the 80s.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by user4 View Post
                Exactly, in fact in these conditions Id rate Taylor's series as exceptional!
                Claye's series was actually significantly better.
                Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Powell View Post
                  Claye's series was actually significantly better.
                  Yes, amazing consistency, but as (almost) always, Taylor had the biggest.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by americantrackfan View Post
                    Yes, amazing consistency, but as (almost) always, Taylor had the biggest.
                    Except they are just about evenly split in competitions with each other.

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                    • to be precise, Taylor leads 21-20, but if you count only the meets since they went pro, it's 16-12 Taylor.


                      danged fingers!
                      Last edited by gh; 08-11-2017, 05:09 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by gh View Post
                        to be precise, Taylor leads 21-21
                        Some people are more equal than others . . .

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                        • Originally posted by americantrackfan View Post
                          Please learn me on Larry Myricks
                          Myricks's record in major championships:
                          1976 Olympic Games
                          1. Arnie Robinson (USA) 8.35 (27-4¾), 2. Randy Williams (USA) 8.11 (26-7¼), 3. Frank Wartenberg (GDR) 8.02 (26-3¾) ... Myricks (USA) DNS

                          Myricks was forced to withdraw after he suffered a stress fracture in his ankle while warming up for the final.

                          1979 World Cup
                          1. Myricks 8.52 (27-11½), 2. Lutz Dombrowski (GDR) 8.27 (27-1¾), 3. David Giralt (Cuba) 8.22 (26-11¾)

                          At that time, this jump was the second-longest of all-time. Here's a link to a contemporary interview from the pages of T&FN:

                          1980 Olympic Trials
                          1. Myricks 8.28 (27-2) +1.7, 2. Carl Lewis 8.01w (26-3½) +2.6, 3. Randy Williams 7.97w (26-1¾) +2.2

                          1984 Olympic Games
                          1. Lewis (USA) 8.54 (28-¼), 2. Gary Honey (Australia) 8.24 (27-½), 3. Giovanni Evangelisti (Italy) 8.24, 4. Myricks 8.16 (26-9¼)

                          1987 World Championships
                          1. Lewis 8.67 (28-5½), 2. Robert Emmiyan (USSR) 8.53 (28-0), 3. Myricks 8.33 (27-4)

                          1988 Olympic Trials
                          1. Lewis 8.76 (28-9) +0.8, 2. Myricks 8.74 (28-8¼) +1.4, 3. Mike Powell 8.36w (27-5¼) +2.8

                          From Track & Field News, Volume 41, Number 9:

                          ...in round 3 Myricks, behind for the first time, got about three quarters of the board and came up with the best jump of his life, 28-8¼.

                          Nobody had ever jumped that far before and not won (and at low altitude only Lewis had jumped that far, period).

                          Two minutes later, somebody had. Lewis, again right on the board, stretched to 28-9, equalling his third-best-ever legal jump—and three quarters of an inch ahead of Myricks.
                          1988 Olympic Games
                          1. Lewis 8.72 (28-7½), 2. Powell (USA) 8.49 (27-10¼), 3. Myricks 8.27 (27-1¾)

                          1989 World Cup
                          1. Myricks 8.29 (27-2½), 2. Yusuf Alli (Nigeria) 8.00 (26-3), 3. Stewart Faulkner (UK) 7.84 (25-8¾)

                          1991 World Championships
                          1. Powell 8.95 (29-4½) +0.3, 2. Lewis 8.91w (29-2¾) +2.9, 3. Myricks 8.42 (27-7½)

                          I would add to bambam1729's comment that Myricks was the best jumper in the world in the late 1970s.

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