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  • Originally posted by nikbonaddio View Post
    I watched six hours of moderately elite-level track, for free.

    Anyone complaining is missing the point altogether.
    Exactly right.
    "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
    by Thomas Henry Huxley

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    • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
      I had the race on DVR and hand-timed it repeatedly, and it was consistently under 44 seconds. The time is real; how it happened is one of the unsolved mysteries of the universe.
      The only un-confusing thing is that other 400m runners set their PBs there. Britain’s Martyn Rooney set his first PB at the olympics in 2008 and then his next in 2015. Fast track? The stars aligning?

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      • Originally posted by AFelixFan View Post
        With Bloomfield, Allen, Taylor, Morris, and others coming through the ranks, he'll soon be retired from relay duty if he doesn't step his game up.
        Francis, Gayle, Gaye, Dunkley. The list could go on. But they have to perform at trials. And last year some of them didn’t, leaving McDonald to ruin Jamaica’s chances at making the 4x400 final in London. They would’ve brought in Allen and Francis for the final and had a shot at gold.

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        • Originally posted by gh View Post
          I can't speak for Europe, where the U23 designation has been a thing for some years now, but for a U.S. audience that's a category that means absolutely nothing; doesn't resonate at all.
          It means absolutely nothing in Europe either.

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          • It sort of does....The age limit for Olympic men's soccer....which hardly anyone really cares about...

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            • Originally posted by Powell View Post
              It was absurd, especially considering it was the host team. Even if someone got a late injury, they could have probably come up with a reasonable replacement on an hour's notice.
              Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
              I wonder how late the injury was. If it was something like tripping over somebody's foot while on the way to the track, it would be too late to register another runner and have them warm up before the race.
              The injury happened as they walked onto the track. I was stood in the mixed zone as Martyn Rooney ran back and called for the team doctor. There wasn't time to replace him but apparently he'd had a niggle warming up so someone should have been on standby especially as there were plenty of potential alternatives in or around the stadium.

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              • Will elaborate later but considering the circumstances in which this meet was organised and the less than perfect scheduling I thought it was rather good.

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                • I thought so too.

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                  • Originally posted by Flumpy View Post
                    It means absolutely nothing in Europe either.
                    It is a developmental thing. Generally if an athlete is already established as a medal contender at seniir level they will not bother with it. Occasionally they might do another event, I think Jess Ennis did the 100H when she was eligible (2007? ).

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                    • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                      London has a huge stadium only for track and trying to justify its existence...
                      It is now the home ground for West Ham United

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                      • I think the timing of this event wasn't great. If it came right after the EC, we might see stronger lineups in better shape from the European teams.
                        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                        • A couple of points raised in the last few posts. Under 23 level is broadly equivalent to US college athletes. Second, the timing of this event was far from ideal but it had to be held within just a one month window of the soccer off-season. With the Diamond League meet this weekend there will be 4 days of track & field and help to justify retaining the track.

                          Despite all the issues it did appear to be a good meeting and worth building on.

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                          • It'll go another year or two and then be thrown on the ash-heap of history like similar meets.

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                            • Originally posted by gm View Post
                              I have never in my life seen a team taken off the track while their lead runner is in the blocks.
                              In Atlanta in 1996. I forget the country. In those days, the relays had three rounds and a team tried to have a runner comeback in round three who had run in round one but not round two. The rules did not permit it. They were escorted off the track.
                              Last edited by Halfmiler2; 07-21-2018, 03:38 PM.

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                              • I saw some the meet on the Olympic Channel tonight and enjoyed it. The more team competition, the better. This is something that a casual fan can get into.

                                And isn’t the World University Games already basically a U23 event except for a few graduate students?

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