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  • Doha 2019 WCs qualification system [IAAF backs off]

    Found this pdf with details on the IAAF webpage: https://www.iaaf.org/download/downlo...019-qualificat

    Remember when they claimed the new rankings would get top athletes to compete more?
    Well they just made a mockery of themselves. The new qualification system is almost exactly like the old one, we still have wild cards, we still have entry standards and only when there are slots left AFTER all other options, will the rankings be used to determine who qualifies.
    How exactly are you going to get someone like Almaz Ayana to compete more when you give her a wildcard which means automatic qualification with NO competitions all year?
    Last edited by gh; 11-11-2018, 04:13 PM.

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    <<“The IAAF world rankings, which will come into operation in 2018, will drive and shape the global competition system including entry into the World Championships and Olympic Games,” commented Sebastian Coe. “For the first time in the sport’s history, athletes, media and fans will have a clear understanding of the hierarchy of competitions from national through to area and up to global events, allowing them to follow a logical season-long path to the pinnacle of athletics' top two competitions.”>>

    —IAAF Press Release, 3 November 17

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    • #3
      I'm with norunner on this. All they've changed from the current system is replace how they fill out the rest of the fields from the 'descending order list' to some cockamamie RubeGoldbergian contraption. I kinda prefer the old way, cuz at least it was crystal clear who was in or out at any moment.

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      • #4
        "Entry Standards are [to be] set for the sole purpose of qualifying athletes with exceptional performances unable to qualify through the IAAF World Rankings pathway . . .."

        Perhaps this should be rephrased as: "World Rankings are to be published by the IAAF for the sole purpose of qualifying athletes with decent performances unable to qualify through the Entry Standards pathway."

        In any event, the American wild cards of the moment:

        Justin Gatlin
        Sam Kendricks
        Christian Taylor
        Tori Bowie
        Phyllis Francis
        Kori Carter
        Emma Coburn
        Brittney Reese

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        • #5
          It depends on what the new qualifying standards are. If they remain around the level as before, then nothing really changes. But they could make them much tougher, so that only a small number of athletes qualify through them and the majority do through the rankings.
          Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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          • #6
            If they set very high entry standards, lets say 90m for the javelin, we're back to the same conclusion. This year the three Germans would have qualified without having to compete more, once again the opposite of what was supposed to be achieved with the rankings. All they are doing is making it harder for athletes below the top level to qualify.

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            • #7
              Remember that no matter how many athletes from one country qualify, or how they qualify, it's still up to the national federation to decide which of its qualified athletes will be entered.

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              • #8
                Given that the rankings won't even be published until 6 September 2019, three weeks before the start of the games, I doubt the practicality of using them for more than residual purposes.

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                • #9
                  Anything to make things more complicated and harder for the average fan to follow

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by player View Post
                    Given that the rankings won't even be published until 6 September 2019, three weeks before the start of the games, I doubt the practicality of using them for more than residual purposes.
                    They exist now, which makes them at least conversation fodder.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, should have said "the rankings used to determine entry won't be published" until at least 6 September 2019. For the US, Trials will be over on 28 July and presumably relay teams will be formed, practicing and competing in August.

                      The circumstances do make the publishing of the entry standards on 1 November 2018 of more than the usual interest.

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                      • #12
                        Most athletes are going to have a terrible time trying to figure out if they have a chance to qualify. Rankings show the five results that make up your total score, but they don't show the results below your top5 and those can be really important if one of your top5 results expires before the end of the qualification period. If your best result expires you certainly want to know what your new score will be once that result has been deleted, but figuring that out would almost require a supercomputer.
                        They need to make a second separate ranking list that only counts results that will still be valid on the day the qualification period ends, which judging by previous experience ain't gonna happen.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by player View Post

                          In any event, the American wild cards of the moment:

                          Justin Gatlin
                          Sam Kendricks
                          Christian Taylor
                          Tori Bowie
                          Phyllis Francis
                          Kori Carter
                          Emma Coburn
                          Brittney Reese
                          I wonder if all the athletes know that diamond league winner still gets the wild card, because that list still leaves a good number of USA folks who could win the diamond league and be able to relax during the US trials next year.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by donley2 View Post
                            I wonder if all the athletes know that diamond league winner still gets the wild card, because that list still leaves a good number of USA folks who could win the diamond league and be able to relax during the US trials next year.
                            Its only half way through the season, but realistically, your looking 4 potential additions for now: one of the 100mH ladies, Lyles, Houlihan and Morris.
                            Overlap with some events already having the world champ get eliminated. But because of how the DL is now where if you win the final you win the whole thing, we really have no idea.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ATK View Post
                              Its only half way through the season, but realistically, your looking 4 potential additions for now: one of the 100mH ladies, Lyles, Houlihan and Morris.
                              Overlap with some events already having the world champ get eliminated. But because of how the DL is now where if you win the final you win the whole thing, we really have no idea.
                              You missed the men's SP as a good chance.

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