I started this thread to undertake further investigations into the career development of athlete's PV performance after discussions on the Mondo thread.
Background
'cajun5150' provided a comparative table of average annual heights by age for Bubka, Duplantis, Lavillenie & Kendricks
In response to this I proposed:
'AS' then rightly pointed out that my underlying assumptions was incorrect
General data discussion
While there might be detailed career training records for Duplantis and some other selected athletes, it is unlikely that there will be sufficient numbers to give any meaningful analysis.
The original table was also based on average performance by chronological age. While interesting, that doesn't have much value when comparing athletes with very different paths to elite performance.
So, where to get data for a more useful analysis? I settled on the IAAF "Results" tab contained on each athlete's profile page. This contains the following data elements:
I limited my selection to those athletes who have cleared 6.00m or greater (n=18) and extracted all outdoor competition data for each year of data available. I limited the data to outdoors competition only because not all athletes had indoor opportunities available and, in general, the primary peaking focus in each year is within the outdoor season.
An examination of the extracted data set shows that, for most athletes, it appears to commence in the first year for which the athlete has a recorded height of 5.00m or greater. A couple of athletes had a first year without a 5.00m jump, so that year was excluded. This provides a standardised starting point for examining the development of pole vaulters over time.
I then classified each calendar year for an athlete as a sequential peformance year (eg Bubka, 1981 = Bubka Year 1 & Lavillenie, 2006 = Lavillinie, Year 1). This allows common years of comparison across all athletes careers and, in combination with starting from a common performance standard, the issue of chronological age comparisons is avoided.
It should be noted that the IAAF does not seem to provide a statement of data collection methods, so I have been unable to confirm that the data is equally comprehensive for all athletes. However, there seem to be enough competition records (n=3,488) to provide useful information.
I will stage posts over a number of days to fit within the limitations of the message board.
Background
'cajun5150' provided a comparative table of average annual heights by age for Bubka, Duplantis, Lavillenie & Kendricks
Originally posted by cajun5150
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Originally posted by El Toro
Originally posted by AS
While there might be detailed career training records for Duplantis and some other selected athletes, it is unlikely that there will be sufficient numbers to give any meaningful analysis.
The original table was also based on average performance by chronological age. While interesting, that doesn't have much value when comparing athletes with very different paths to elite performance.
So, where to get data for a more useful analysis? I settled on the IAAF "Results" tab contained on each athlete's profile page. This contains the following data elements:
- Date (of competition in dd-mmm-yy format e.g.23-Aug-81)
- Competition (description e.g."Utrecht European Junior Championships")
- Cnt. (Country of competition)
- Cat (IAAF competition rating category A,B,C,D,DF,EF,GL,GW,OW & 0)
- Race (the nature of competition e.g. qualifying or final)
- Pl. (Place in competition)
- Result (best vault height)
I limited my selection to those athletes who have cleared 6.00m or greater (n=18) and extracted all outdoor competition data for each year of data available. I limited the data to outdoors competition only because not all athletes had indoor opportunities available and, in general, the primary peaking focus in each year is within the outdoor season.
An examination of the extracted data set shows that, for most athletes, it appears to commence in the first year for which the athlete has a recorded height of 5.00m or greater. A couple of athletes had a first year without a 5.00m jump, so that year was excluded. This provides a standardised starting point for examining the development of pole vaulters over time.
I then classified each calendar year for an athlete as a sequential peformance year (eg Bubka, 1981 = Bubka Year 1 & Lavillenie, 2006 = Lavillinie, Year 1). This allows common years of comparison across all athletes careers and, in combination with starting from a common performance standard, the issue of chronological age comparisons is avoided.
It should be noted that the IAAF does not seem to provide a statement of data collection methods, so I have been unable to confirm that the data is equally comprehensive for all athletes. However, there seem to be enough competition records (n=3,488) to provide useful information.
I will stage posts over a number of days to fit within the limitations of the message board.
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