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  • #16
    Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

    You are right, Texas and Fla. performances are outstanding, better lots of times and with more depth than California these days. It just seems like it would be even more exciting for spectators and runners if all the very best Texas kids ran against one another.

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    • #17
      Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

      No, the CA state meet is a better set up than the meets in Fla and Texas. The level of talent has gone down a bit in CA though, a lot of it due to the influx of illegals and their dependency on taxpayer funded social services (thus making for higher taxes on individuals and businesses) forcing a lot of individuals to move to other states - not only whites, but blacks as well, in the lower and middle classes. The set up is good in CA, but the performances ... they are not as consistently as good as they used to be. Texas was always strong in sprints, and now has some great distance stars as well. Fla has improved in all areas. It would be nice to see the top kids in those states square off to see one state champ in each event.

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      • #18
        Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

        Only problem with 1 division is you essentially take away the team aspect of a state meet. No small school will be competitive in the 4x100m, 4x400m, 4x800m, 4x200m (girls in Ohio). If you don't care about team competition this will not matter to you, but I like the teams fighting for school honors, and no school w/250 kids can compete against one with 1500 kids for a team title. Just a thought.

        By the way, at the state meet today in Ohio the top performance was a stellar 4:06 1600m by Jeff See of Middletown, OH (63, 63, 64, 56). Most impressive - he is a sophomore!! A name to watch.

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        • #19
          Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

          That would make him about as fast, or faster than Ryun as a soph if it was 4:06 flat, right?

          I can only hope that the country is hitting a period where we will see some of these kids develop into threats at the elite level.

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          • #20
            Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

            >The level of talent has
            >gone down a bit in CA though, a lot of it due to
            >the influx of illegals and their dependency on
            >taxpayer funded social services (thus making for
            >higher taxes on individuals and businesses)
            >forcing a lot of individuals to move to other
            >states - not only whites, but blacks as well, in
            >the lower and middle classes.

            Right, like this is hardly an issue in Texas or Florida.

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            • #21
              Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

              But Ryun as a soph ran the 1609m -- not the 1600m.

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              • #22
                Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                yalls girls aint bad butthe boys are avg.no 40. yet,xman owns calli ,texas 39.35 all dfw relay at the GSW says it all!

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                • #23
                  Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                  Maybe other states are just as bad, but does Texas have a lot of success (i.e., good marks?) simply because so many of it's kids are older?

                  I remember being struck by this in 2002 when it turned out that Texas had three State sprint champs who aren't juniors this year.

                  Brendan Christian was 18 at state, turned 19 before year was out.
                  Kelly Willie was 19 turned 20.
                  Edorian McCullough was 20 all year.

                  In a "normal" state I'd expect about half (5/12ths actually) of the kids to be just 17, turning 18. Huge difference there.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                    We could probably find similar "snapshots" of CA (or any other state's) athletes.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                      >We could probably find similar "snapshots" of
                      >CA (or any other state's) athletes.>>

                      Be my guest.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                        ivory williams is da shyt now in texas. and still a junior

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                        • #27
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                          Yeah, an 18-year-old junior! (Thanks for firming up my case.)

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                          • #28
                            Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                            >>We could probably find similar "snapshots"
                            >of
                            >CA (or any other state's) athletes.>>

                            Be
                            >my guest.


                            It doesn't really matter, does it?

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                            • #29
                              Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                              Well it certainly matters in the sense that if we've have a debate over the merits of CA vs TX and one of them is using primarily 17-18 athletes and the other is using 18-19, the paramters are skewed mightily.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Why the California HS state meet is the best

                                You honestly believe that the former is PRIMARY in one place but not the other and that the latter occurs ONLY in the other? Quit imagining things, save the conspiracy theories for when you brunch with Oliver Stone.

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