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[gm]

I have in my mind taht there was a Montréal day with 5-6 WRs.

Juantorena (800) and Moses (400H) were on the same day, but no days with 5-6 WRs.

[26mi235]

The two events are quite similar in some respects - typically only 1-2 top-level competitions during the year. Those that are saying EK has too thin a record but tell me the name of anyone that has won three of top (six?) races or at least similar top-tier races.

[gh]

Juantorena (800) and Moses (400H) were on the same day, but no days with 5-6 WRs.

Richter in the 100 semis that day too, so it was a threefer.

[DrJay]

Wow! Today was one for the ages. I don’t see anyone seriously appaching that time anytime soon, even Kipchoge.

The way Kipchoge bounced and skipped and trotted around after the finish, I think he has more in the tank. 2:00? Maybe not, but you never know. It could have been 10-15F cooler, maybe that would help a bit. Set up the pacemaking to be 60:20 to 60:30 at the half. Amazing how his group separated itself from Kipsang's pretty much from the get-go. He's in a class by himself. and maybe that's what's needed for a sub-2:00. Add a well-matched competitor and suddenly winning takes priority.

[Powell]

Maybe they could set up another race in the Monza track, but with a legal setup this time. It's flat as a pancake, which is something you never get in a city marathon. That might have given more of an advantage than all the illegal pacemaking etc.

[Conor Dary]

In The Atlantic today....how many track WRs get this kind of coverage lately.... certainly not the Decathlon..

A New World Marathon Record Almost Defies Description

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/570400/?utm_source=twb&__twitter_impression=true

[hammer_forever!]

the 1976 summer Olympics two WRs on the same day were back to back in the program, 400 IH first, then 800m.

[Trickstat]

In The Atlantic today....how many track WRs get this kind of coverage lately.... certainly not the Decathlon..

A New World Marathon Record Almost Defies Description

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/arti...mpression=true

Apparently even the BBC took 20 hours to add Mayer's record to the article on Kipchoge's record.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/45539546

[Powell]

the 1976 summer Olympics two WRs on the same day were back to back in the program, 400 IH first, then 800m.

At the 1987 WC, Ben Johnson and Stefka Kostadinova set WRs within 10 or 15 mins od each other. True, the former was later annulled, but then Carl Lewis' 9.93 equalled the old WR.

[TN1965]

Is it time to begin discussing an actual sub-2:00?

: )

First sub-2:07: Dinsamo 1988.
First sub-2:06: Khannouchi 1999.
First sub-2:05: Tergat 2004.
First sub-2:04: Gebrsellasie 2008.
First sub-2:03: Kimetto 2014.
First sub-2:02: Kipchoge 2018.

So if you start from Khannouchi's 2:05:42, a new barrier was broken every 4-6 years. You might think we will see the first sub-2 in 8-12 years. But there is also an 11 yr gap between Dinsamo and Khannouchi. So taking another 1:40 off might take more than two decades. I think the latter is more likely, since I think Kipchoge is a big outlier.

[NotDutra5]

In The Atlantic today....how many track WRs get this kind of coverage lately.... certainly not the Decathlon..

A New World Marathon Record Almost Defies Description

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/arti...mpression=true

On ESPN's afternoon sports show "Around the Horn", the marathon record was touted by Woody Paige in his face time at the end of the show. He also mentioned Kipchoge's other marathon wins as well.

[catson52]

the 1976 summer Olympics two WRs on the same day were back to back in the program, 400 IH first, then 800m.

6th Sept. 1960. Back to back WRs by two (three ?) people. First Otis Davis (and Carl Kaufmann ?) in the 400 m, a barrier breaker. Next the 1500m with Herb Elliott.

[gh]

Sean Hartnett ("Professor Marathon") has gone over all the data from the timing cars on the course and there are a few tweaks from what I posted earlier in the thread. The updated numbers:

1. Eliud Kipchoge (Ken) 2:01:39 WR (old WR 2:02:57 Dennis Kimetto [Ken] ’14) (30K—1:26:45 "WR"—old, 1:27:13 Kipchoge ’16 & Stanley Biwott [Ken] ’16) (pace 4:38.4/mile)

(5Ks—14:24, 14:37 [29:01], 14:37 [43:38], 14:18 [57:56], 14:28 [1:12:25], 14:21 [1:26:45], 14:17 [1:41:03], 14:29 [1:55:31], 6:08)

(10Ks—29:01, 28:55 [57:56], 28:49 [1:26:45], 28:47 [1:55:31], 6:08)

(Halves—61:06/60:33);

[bobguild76]

Still trying to wrap my head around Kipchoge's performance. Going out in 61:06 ... and then negative splitting the race! First 10k in 29:01 ... and it's the slowest 10k of the race! Second place, a 2:06 marathon, is a mile behind!!!

There have been several POY worthy performances, but in my opinion, this one takes the cake.

[gh]

Still trying to wrap my head around Mayer's performance. Starting at 10.55, then following with 25-7¼/7.80, 52-6/16.00, 6-8¾/2.05, 48.42, 13.75, 165‑10/ 50.54, 17-10½/5.45, 235-11/71.90 & 4:36.11.

There have been several POY worthy performances, but in my opinion, this one takes the cake.


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