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    Now that we’re in the lull before the WC, it’s time to consider Doha as a venue and as a WC. What shall we expect?

    My take is that it will be the most ‘honest’ global championships . . . ever.
    Yes, the doping authorities seem to be stricter than ever before, but I’m mostly talking about the level of performances. With the first climate-controlled outdoor championships, the environmental conditions will be taken out of the equation – not too hot, not too cool, no rain, but most importantly, NO WIND . . . helping, hurting or affecting performances whatsoever. So the sprints will be ‘basic’; the other races won’t have any portion be wind-in-the-face. The discus and javelin throws will fly true. No (un)lucky breaks.

    The track/runways are state-of-the-art, i.e., fast.

    I think we’re in store for some exceptional performances. Or is this wishful thinking?

    Lots of questions to be answered:

    Men
    Was Coleman affected by his drug near-miss. Is Gatlin’s leg OK? Is Blake back?
    Is Lyles a lock?
    Norman-Kerley rematch. James back?
    Is Brazier ready for greatness?
    Can JInge hang with TCher long enough to kick?
    A non-Kenyan mSt champ? Kenya-Ethiopia dual meet in the 5/10?
    Where do the collegians fit in the 100H?
    Warholm-Benj match-race!
    USA-Jam relays.
    HJ mess finally cleaned up.
    Epic PV showdown.
    Finally some fireworks in LJ?
    Can CT hold off Claye?
    SP – event of the meet!
    Can Dacres challenge Stahl?
    Poles 1-2 in HT?
    Germans or Kirt/Cheng?
    Mayer WR?

    Women
    The Jam queens or the Brit?
    If SMU can go, she wins! Seyni there?
    Wilson continues domination?
    I like Houlihan’s chances in the 1500!
    Coburn breaks up Kenya sweep?
    Hassan 5/10 double win?
    Amis shunted to bronze in 100H?
    McL-Muh in WR?
    More Jam-USA relays
    Lev upset over Lasits?
    Amis shut out in PV?
    Mihambo unchallenged?
    Rojas big mark?
    Ami SP medal?
    Top 3 finally sorted out in DT
    Ami HT medal?
    Lyu over Aus/Eur challenge?
    Thiam dominates?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    Now that we’re in the lull before the WC, it’s time to consider Doha as a venue and as a WC. What shall we expect?

    My take is that it will be the most ‘honest’ global championships . . . ever.
    Yes, the doping authorities seem to be stricter than ever before, but I’m mostly talking about the level of performances. With the first climate-controlled outdoor championships, the environmental conditions will be taken out of the equation – not too hot, not too cool, no rain, but most importantly, NO WIND . . . helping, hurting or affecting performances whatsoever. So the sprints will be ‘basic’; the other races won’t have any portion be wind-in-the-face. The discus and javelin throws will fly true. No (un)lucky breaks.....?
    Paris '03 wasn't climate-controlled, but didn't need to be, and with the cavernous almost-enclosed stadium it was abou as neutral as you can get. Maybe even better than what Doha will provide.

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    • #3
      My big questions are always: Who will be the biggest upset?Who will be the biggest surprise?
      A lock is never a lock in Championships.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gh View Post
        Paris '03 wasn't climate-controlled, but didn't need to be, and with the cavernous almost-enclosed stadium it was abou as neutral as you can get. Maybe even better than what Doha will provide.
        Perhaps wind-neutral, but it was pretty cold for the second half of the meet (I was actually there) and the marks reflected that.
        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Atticus View Post
          I think we’re in store for some exceptional performances. Or is this wishful thinking?

          Lots of questions to be answered:

          Men
          Is Brazier ready for greatness?
          Im voting yes !!.. I can feel it in my bones!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Powell View Post
            Perhaps wind-neutral, but it was pretty cold for the second half of the meet (I was actually there) and the marks reflected that.
            based on official reports, lowest temp for any in-stadium final was 16C (61F) which I'd consider anything but cold.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gh View Post
              based on official reports, lowest temp for any in-stadium final was 16C (61F) which I'd consider anything but cold.
              Not freezing cold, but certainly sub-optimal for sprints and field events.
              Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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              • #8
                I'm shocked! Atticus forgot the men's 20k walk.
                -Will this be the breakthrough year for Japanese 20k walkers Yamanishi and Takahashi in a championship meet?
                -Can 2018 EC winner Diego Garcia Carrera continue Spain's good fortune in the walks?
                -Will Massimo Stano of Italy prove that his monster race at La Coruna in June is no fluke?
                -Can Eider Arevelo get back to 2017 form and win a medal?
                Last edited by TWalsh; 09-15-2019, 07:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  I was in Paris 03 for the middle days, and it was shorts and t shirts weather for sure.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wiederganger View Post
                    I was in Paris 03 for the middle days, and it was shorts and t shirts weather for sure.
                    I looked it it up now in the official IAAF results book. Yes, the max temperature was between 25 and 29 on days 1-6, but it dropped to 18-19 on the final 3 days.
                    Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                    • #11
                      I think it was a BAD idea to give the meet to Doha and hold it this late in the season. I don’t think there has been a big meet this late in my lifetime (Mexico City was a few years before I was born). This in conjunction with next year’s Olympics being earlier than usual (the earliest since Atlanta) and also in adverse conditions (very hot and dry one year, hot and humid the next). I am expecting many sub par performances and very slow and tactical races in anything above 800. I think it will be similar to Sydney in many ways but with a lot more empty seats!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jeremyp View Post
                        My big questions are always: Who will be the biggest upset?Who will be the biggest surprise?
                        A lock is never a lock in Championships.
                        This year, though, I feel like there aren't many athletes who even look like locks. Most events have two or more top contenders.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gh View Post
                          Paris '03 wasn't climate-controlled, but didn't need to be, and with the cavernous almost-enclosed stadium it was abou as neutral as you can get. Maybe even better than what Doha will provide.
                          So if it's climate-controlled with no wind or negligible wind... how close is it to being an indoor meet? I guess it can still rain, right?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TWalsh View Post
                            I'm shocked! Atticus forgot the men's 20k walk.
                            -Will this be the breakthrough year for Japanese 20k walkers Yamanishi and Takahashi in a championship meet?
                            -Can 2018 EC winner Diego Garcia Carrera continue Spain's good fortune in the walks?
                            -Will Massimo Stano of Italy prove that his monster race at La Coruna in June is no fluke?
                            -Can Eider Arevelo get back to 2017 form and win a medal?
                            Yikes! You actually do know the Walks!
                            I cede my super-uber-T&F-nerd card to you!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jeremyp View Post
                              A lock is never a lock in Championships.
                              Here's my Locks!

                              m200 Lyles
                              Dec Mayer
                              w400 SMU
                              w3000St Chepkoech
                              wLJ Mihambo
                              wTJ Rojas
                              Hep Thiam

                              Reality is that at least one will lose.

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