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  • US men and women’s 2019 AOY

    Who do we expect to take the these honors?

    Brazier, Kovacs, and Kendricks would seem good candidates.

    Delilah Muhammad would seem like the obvious choice for the Women’s AOY.

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    Delilah Muhammad had a great year with her World Championships individual and relay Golds and twice breaking the WR. But I think she’s edged out by Hassan’s WR, coupled with her World Championship Golds in two events. Pretty good time in the 1500 by the way.
    Last edited by effable; 10-08-2019, 05:16 AM.

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    • #3
      No way Kovacs gets it, he will not even be number 1 in his event in the US, and winning by the slimmest of margins is exciting but not dominant. You seem to have left out two of the most obvious candidates with only a single loss each with 1 Gold and a Relay Gold as well as CT in the TJ.

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      • #4
        Taylor should have been included. No question. Kovacs has the longest throw in almost 30 years as part of winning and getting the WC record. Both Coleman and Lyles did great things but their times were not shocking.
        Last edited by Dave; 10-09-2019, 03:21 PM.

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        • #5
          Kovacs suffers from not being very clearly better than two other marks; Crouser's and Walsh's marks were avery bit as shocking as Kovacs - in fact Walsh's was more shocking at the time. I am not sure that Kovacs will be in the Top 10 for AOY, and he will not even be the number 1 American in the SP, so no chance that he is even that close for American AOY.

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          • #6
            Kendricks or Lyles for me, based on where their 2019 best marks put them on world all-time lists and their Diamond League wins, in addition to world titles.

            Double DL win for Lyles. American record for Kendricks. I could see either one.

            800m is my favorite event but Brazier "only" now in 11th spot on world all-time list. And he didn't have to face Amos.

            Kovacs and Coleman didn't win Diamond League.

            Taylor didn't have the best TJ by an American.

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            • #7
              Brazier is surely in the top three. AR indoor and outdoors. WR in the indoor 600m. Diamond league and World champion.

              Believe he only lost one race this year at 800m.

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              • #8
                Indoor doesn't count for AOY voting. As I see it, the choice for Mens USAOY is between Kendricks and Brazier. on the mens side. Toss a coin. Coleman, Lyles and Taylor round out the top 5.

                The women's USAOY is Muhammed, who will also be runner up for world AOY to Hassan. Nia Ali will be the women's USAOY runner up.

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                • #9
                  Why is indoors not considered? Yes the competition and the records are weaker, but it is still part of the athletes' resume. At the very least, it should act as a bonus.

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                  • #10
                    Mostly I'm guessing because not everyone can compete indoors. No long throws, no Decathlon, no distance races, no 100 meters. Pretty much a different beast.

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                    • #11
                      AOY is about the whole season, not just one meet. Kovacs won less than 1/3 of his meets this year, didn't win the Diamond League, didn't win the US trials, and his win in Doha was considered an upset because the rest of his season didn't indicate that he would even win a medal.

                      There's a reasonable argument for his Doha win being the US POY, but he's not even close to AOY.

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                      • #12
                        Kendricks or Lyles kind of clear IMO. Lyles' 100m season adds too much to his case.
                        - DL champion
                        - Only person to beat the #1 100m guy
                        - 2nd fastest in the world

                        But then Kendricks with no losses to Americans (I think?) and the American record may give him a step since Lyles doesn't have those in the 200m.

                        Brazier would be 3rd as he unfortunately doesn't have a 2nd event and (seems like) he competed relatively infrequently outdoors.
                        Last edited by ATK; 10-08-2019, 11:24 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by player View Post
                          Taylor didn't have the best TJ by an American.
                          Out of the 5 times that Taylor and Claye faced each other this year, Clay won once. Its not even close for who's the top TJ this year.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by effable View Post
                            Delilah Muhammad had a great year with her World Championships individual and relay Golds and twice breaking the WR. But I think she’s edged out by Hassan’s WR, coupled with her World Championship Golds in two events. Pretty good time in the 1500 by the way.
                            Hassan is my choice for World AOY but she's not an American (see thread title).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ATK View Post
                              Kendricks or Lyles kind of clear IMO. Lyles' 100m season adds too much to his case.
                              - DL champion
                              - Only person to beat the #1 100m guy
                              - 2nd fastest in the world

                              But then Kendricks with no losses to Americans (I think?) and the American record may give him a step since Lyles doesn't have those in the 200m.

                              Brazier would be 3rd as he unfortunately doesn't have a 2nd event and (seems like) he competed relatively infrequently outdoors.
                              Claye finished ahead of Taylor at the US Championships, as well. It was Taylor’s choice to not give an effort there and it still counts as a loss.

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