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  • #46
    Originally posted by Master Po View Post
    Definitely agree on Warholm. Can't decide on the women's side.
    Same lol. Women's side is SO tough. Pretty much a toss up, there's no real wrong answer. Personally, I'd choose DM.

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    • #47
      I must admit that I admire that DM did her 2 WRs in her 2 most crucial races of the year.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Trickstat View Post
        I must admit that I admire that DM did her 2 WRs in her 2 most crucial races of the year.
        For me, that carries a lot of weight. What odelltrclan said about Hassan is true of DM also. She put it on the line against her best rivals, and while she didn't come away with an undefeated record, she won the two races that mattered to her the most, both in WR time.

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        • #49
          Losing to the second fastest runner ever is not too much of a black mark, and beating that same second-fastest runner in the two most important races is also impressive.

          For me, not having undefeated seasons means less than in normal years because of the extended season which meant that many athletes were doing some competing when in heavy training while others were at peaks with heavy training at other times.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bobguild76 View Post
            For me, that carries a lot of weight. What odelltrclan said about Hassan is true of DM also. She put it on the line against her best rivals, and while she didn't come away with an undefeated record, she won the two races that mattered to her the most, both in WR time.
            Naser beat SMU handily while her rival was chopping 0.6 seconds off her best. And like it or not, some consider Naser's run the best ever, though of course that should never figure into AOY voting.

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            • #51
              I don't put much weight in being undefeated at all. It favours those that don't compete much or avoid their biggest rivals.

              Obviously if you've raced everyone all year and won that should be rewarded but losing a couple of times against fierce competition shouldn't be penalised too much especially if the loses are inconsequential when compared to the victories.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by LuckySpikes View Post
                Five defeats in 14 finals (I miscounted initially) is still too much though when you're going up against athletes who have also gone up against the best, have much better W-L ratios and have also set stellar marks.
                I counted 15 races for Hassan, which means she won 66.7% of her races, compared to 71.4% for Muhammad. That's not such a big difference.

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                • #53
                  Naser's crazy-long season continues, winning the World Military Games in a CR of 50.15. As with some of her DL runs, it did look like she could have gone faster had she wished, (the way she responded to Miller on her inside on the final turn, running away from her when she noticed her, suggested she wasn't flat out). This is not surprising though, when she is also entered in the 200 and both relays!

                  Though not a hugely significant meet, it's another fast time, a title, and a run against some decent competition. It can only help her argument to be considered as AOY.

                  An unrelated to AOY side note: I know some folk have cast doubts on her, but in her defense she has raced all over the circuit, all year. There's been no preparing behind closed doors and only coming out at the major champs, so we have to applaud that.

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