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    I have been collecting High Jump stats that reflect the top 50 high jumpers in the US since 1980 until 1991.

    I am missing 1992-2002 & 1988 #50

    I used to pull this from T&F News year end rankings issue.

    Can anyone help? I really just need #1 & #50's performance.

  • #2
    Re: Looking for HJ Stats

    Sounds like another Garry job to me, but why cannot you just get it from T&FN for all of those years ? I am not at home ( where my COMPLETE collection of T&FN's is ) but I am pretty sure, almost positive, that there is a top 50 , both World and US list printed every year.

    So assuming you do not have all those issues, and unless Garry/someone else posts the info today, I will look it all up tonight for you !

    The reason I am so sure sbout the lists is that I started a graph about 20 years ago, retroactive to 1947 or 1948, that charts # 1, # 10, and # 50 (maybe # 25 ) every year !

    So I will just pull out my chart to give you your answers.

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    • #3
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      You know what would be cool? If T&FN released a CD-ROM set of ALL back issues, like National Geographic did a few years back. NG's set was something like $110 for every issue going back to 1896. It's really cool. I would certainly buy a similar set from T&FN, but I realize they probably don't have the considerable financial resources that National Geo has.
      "Run fast and keep turning left."

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      • #4
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        Garry, are you listening/reading ? Maybe you could make a buck on it too, besides elping people out. I can't believe you make any significant money on the sale of bound volumes but you could keep doing that too.

        I remember 35 years ago when T&FN used to advertise back issues for sale, all the way back to 1948, at various prices. My subscription started in October 1959, but I bought all the issues from April 1948 through Sept. 1959 from T&FN.

        Sorry to ramble here but what else is this message board for ? About 15 years ago Pete Cava at USATF ( then TAC ) mentioned to me one day that they were building a library of T&FN memoribalia and were missing about 12 issues of T&FN . Guessed who loaned the missing ones to TAC, so they could have them professionally photographed to fill out their complete set ?

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        • #5
          Re: Looking for HJ Stats

          I second/third this suggestion, Garry. I seem to recall that TFN used to offer back issues on microfiche. A CD ROM, or series of them, going back to issue #1 would be invaluable. How about it?

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          • #6
            Re: Looking for HJ Stats

            Yeah! I bet putting 55 years of T&FN on CD-ROM is a lot cheaper than it used to be. I'd pay good money for that. Throw in Track Newsletter and I'll be beating down the door!

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            • #7
              Re: Looking for HJ Stats

              You're talking some 50,000 pages that require copying. Have to find a lot of hardcore nuts to pay for that.

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              • #8
                Re: Looking for HJ Stats

                Unfortunately - I stopped collecting the issues in 1990 or so.

                I was hoping someone would have the back issues and be able to go to that page and pull that info.

                I may be asking a lot - I guess I can try to buy those issues to get that information - I just hate to do that for such a small bit of information.

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                • #9
                  Re: Looking for HJ Stats

                  197hjsteve,

                  btw - that is what I am interested in doing - graphing the US HJ performance over the recent 20 year period - my thesis is that with doping testing advances/methodologies/policies & lack of structrued High Jump developmental programs - for at least at the 50 and below performance level.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Looking for HJ Stats

                    You might try Scott Davis and the FAST US Annuals. I believe they may be available for those dates. Also ATFS annuals could be helpful but the cost and time may be prohibitive.

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                    • #11
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                      tony c, I told you I would do some research for you and I will, but I have not yet had the time. And i checked; my graph from 1948 onward is for world, not US, and charts 1,10, and 25.

                      Another problem, I just glanced at last year's lists in T&FN and they only go down to 40, not 50.
                      But hang in there Tony, I always live up to my promises. Sometime in the next week or 2 I will look into this for you !

                      Steve

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                      • #12
                        Re: Looking for HJ Stats

                        Thanks alot Steve,

                        Your help is a godsend.

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