NEW U.S. FROSH BOY RECORD 1600 meters

Re: NEW U.S. FROSH BOY RECORD 1600 meters

and just as an obvious comment, showing the futility of any completely accurate conversion formulas, one runner can be virtually staggering to the line at 1600 m, while another looks like Michael Johnson. Yet the same conversion factor is used for both.

So just forget all this everybody, lean back, and just go with the flow.

Re: NEW U.S. FROSH BOY RECORD 1600 meters

and just as an obvious comment, showing the futility of any completely accurate conversion formulas, one runner can be virtually staggering to the line at 1600 m, while another looks like Michael Johnson. Yet the same conversion factor is used for both.

So just forget all this everybody, lean back, and just go with the flow.

Re: NEW U.S. FROSH BOY RECORD 1600 meters

>Yeah, the 4:14.26 is the fastest 1600 ever, but
>Doug Smith's 4:15.5 mile from 1965 is worth
>4:14.1 for 1600. On the other hand, if you add
>0.14 for hand timing, then he's only 0.02 faster!

Here is the problem that I have with the 1600/mile time argument. The standard conversion factor is to add 1.4 seconds to convert from 1600 to mile and subtract 1.4 seconds to convert from mile to 1600. Right? So, this is somebody's estimate of how long it takes to run the extra 9 meters.

But, wouldn't a 4:00 miler runnning 1600m run that extra 9 meters faster than a 5:00 miler? Wouldn't the 3:50 miler be faster over the extra 9 meters than the 4:00 miler? So, the +/- 1.4 second rule is at best a rough estimate.

Sure, using proportions it only works out to at most a few hundreths of a second difference for any given time. But, a few hundreths of a second is the difference between a world record and just another fast time.

Re: NEW U.S. FROSH BOY RECORD 1600 meters

Yeah, the 4:14.26 is the fastest 1600 ever, but Doug Smith's 4:15.5 mile from 1965 is worth 4:14.1 for 1600. On the other hand, if you add 0.14 for hand timing, then he's only 0.02 faster!

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