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    Mr. Webb we are all pulling for you.

    "This spell must of have been hell
    but don't dewell on this little bad spell
    you can raise from this hell
    and things will be just swell

    When you run a fast mile
    we will all give a big smile"


    No hard feelings it is just the internet.

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    yippee

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    one

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    oooooh - two to go

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    Kenyans start running the day after they are born. There is a little track in the nursery.

    Seriously, why doesn't Webb just go over to Kenya and train. It did wonders for Kennedy.

    Webb and his Coach's "revolutionary" training methods are a bust so far. Webb's coach had the gall to criticize Krummenacker training methods earlier this year. In short he said Krummenacker was just not fast enough. It is not Krummenacker who is burning out in the last lap.

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    >I'm tired of all this talk about Webb like he was
    >type of savior of track in the making. Talented
    >kid who's not running well, sounds like 50 other
    >kids in colleges around the US.

    Lets talk
    >about the real deal. My son Bryce will be 3 yrs
    >old soon and boy can he fly when he is chasing th
    >beagle around the back yard. Just think of the
    >way he'll save T&F in the U.S.

    What other kids ran 3:53 in 12th grade? What other kid gets $250k/yr for running? Webb may not be the savior of US track and field but he may help to open some eyes as to the problems with the system and why we are having trouble developing our middle distance runners.

    I think you should get Bryce running some distances. Its never too soon for 50 mile weeks. I think the Kenyan 3 year olds are doing it - they have to run 5 miles each way to preschool.

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    >Big 10 Cross doesn't matter? Tell that to
    >Kennedy and Sullivan. Webb's 23:20 Big Ten win
    >in 2001 was v/impressive. At Nationals that year
    >his 29:38 BEAT Dan Lincoln, Grant Robinson, Dan
    >Wilson, Luchini - as a freshman. Webb is a miler
    >for sure, but he is much more. He is very
    >talented, and while this year is a wash I think
    >all the talk of his "mental" issues and him
    >being a head case are way off the mark. He has
    >shown a rare combination of strength/speed among
    >U.S. runners. A subpar year - yes. Something
    >for armchair coaches to discuss - probably.
    >Webb's demise - not a chance.

    To clarify "it doesn't matter" it DOES matter in that it shows he has plenty of talent to run longer distances. But, it DOESN'T matter in helping him become a better miler (infact I would argue it hurt).

    His rare combination of strength and speed are precisely why this thread is so popular and interesting. We are all trying to figure out what is going on. What is going on may be at the crux of the failure of American middle distance running.

    If someone with his talent can't transition into the big time. If Ritz is hurt in only his 2nd year at Colorado something is up. What is up is the system (colleges and schools) asking too much of the kids too soon. Too many seasons, too much racing in season and too much training to prepare for all the seasons. Kid's scholarships, coach's salaries and school's reputations are all at stake and the kids are being used up and spit out!

    Careful long-term planning of training programs putting the athlete's first is a must if we are ever going to be able to pull out of this slump.

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    Big 10 Cross doesn't matter? Tell that to Kennedy and Sullivan. Webb's 23:20 Big Ten win in 2001 was v/impressive. At Nationals that year his 29:38 BEAT Dan Lincoln, Grant Robinson, Dan Wilson, Luchini - as a freshman. Webb is a miler for sure, but he is much more. He is very talented, and while this year is a wash I think all the talk of his "mental" issues and him being a head case are way off the mark. He has shown a rare combination of strength/speed among U.S. runners. A subpar year - yes. Something for armchair coaches to discuss - probably. Webb's demise - not a chance.

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    >"During his freshman year at
    Michigan, Webb was
    >named
    the Big Ten athlete of the year
    for men's
    >cross-country after
    winning the
    >conference
    individual title."

    The statement
    >above alone proves he was better last year.

    He
    >is hurt. Maybe he is not pushing himself in the
    >fear of rupturing is achilles heal.

    Webb is a
    >fascination study.

    Who cares? Winning a Big Ten title in cross is meaningless for a miler. That a big part of the problem. How does El. G. do in cross? He doesn't -because he might get hurt! It is how he did in the 1500 that counts. 4th in NCAA is not too good for a kid who hands down beat the NCAA champion (Berryhill) the previous year.

    I don't think lack of hard training is the problem. He was training too hard at Michigan and if anything he is still training too hard.

    He's got to get back to the speed and having fun racing. Get in the 8s and maybe even a couple all-comer's 4s and relays. With all the attention and pressure running has likely become too serious leading to too much pressure and too much hard training.

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    I'm tired of all this talk about Webb like he was type of savior of track in the making. Talented kid who's not running well, sounds like 50 other kids in colleges around the US.

    Lets talk about the real deal. My son Bryce will be 3 yrs old soon and boy can he fly when he is chasing th beagle around the back yard. Just think of the way he'll save T&F in the U.S.

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    "During his freshman year at
    Michigan, Webb was named
    the Big Ten athlete of the year
    for men's cross-country after
    winning the conference
    individual title."

    The statement above alone proves he was better last year.

    He is hurt. Maybe he is not pushing himself in the fear of rupturing is achilles heal.

    Webb is a fascination study.

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    >In closing Alan Webb is either hurt or there is
    >something distracting him.

    Nobody including
    >Webb could of predicted such a bad 2003 season so
    >far.

    He ran a lot better at Michigan.

    This
    >link gives a good perspective on what may be
    >wrong with
    >Webb.

    http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/oly28_2
    >030528.htm

    How does this article give any insight as to what may be wrong with him? I don't agree that he ran much better at Michigan than he has run this year. Neither year could be considered a success. How can it be considered a success if he didn't improve upon his previous year's time?

    He is distracted. He is most likely trying very hard to get back his form, but is digging a deeper hole by overtraining in this attempt.

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    In closing Alan Webb is either hurt or there is something distracting him.

    Nobody including Webb could of predicted such a bad 2003 season so far.

    He ran a lot better at Michigan.

    This link gives a good perspective on what may be wrong with Webb.

    http://www.freep.com/sports/umich/oly28_20030528.htm

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    >I think many athletes would have turned it down
    >because in track and field specifically, the
    >collegiate level of competition is very necassary
    >in the development of ones abilities and positive
    >habits. It is also good to compete with people
    >on your level and work your way up to
    >consistantly high levels of competition. And
    >once you are there, then the money offers come in
    >once you are ready for a high level of
    >competition and more importantly prepared for
    >that step. What do you think Nike is thinking
    >now about their/A.W. decision? Also, would there
    >not have been more money had he put in his time
    >and excelled to a high level and become dominant,
    >which I am sure many believe he may have?

    What kids after putting in 4 solid years of college running are now in the money? None (not even the best of all Krum) has a contract like Webb. He had to strike while the iron was hot. If he had waited another year or three and his running didn't live up to expectations the money would no longer be there. He is hot because he was a name out of high school. He made the smart decision. He would have been an idiot to turn it down. I'm sure Nike is second guessing its decision but there is still plenty of time for Alan to pull it together.

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    >I think many athletes would have turned it down
    >because in track and field specifically, the
    >collegiate level of competition is very necassary
    >in the development of ones abilities and positive
    >habits.>

    Well then they would have been pretty stupid.

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