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    <<Unless he's injured or ill>>

    You may be right afterall. Web had a burst appendix this week. I knew there was something wrong. His slow times just didn't add up.

    Well, are the Webb critics now going to give him "one more year".

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    Read Sub 4:00. Webb is a very hard trainer -- maybe that's the problem. Unless he's injured or ill, he doesn't seem to be responding to the workouts, or he regards them as the competitions (e.g., he's leaving it at the workout. Also, there are a couple photos of him, and he is SO bulked up -- he looks like a wrestler. Arms and torso are HUGE (this was last year while at Michigan). Not the sylph-like figures of El G and the Kenyans -- I think he's realized that now, he looked slimmer this spring.

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    >Here is the closest reference I could find on
    >Raz's quote referring to other US milers
    >including Krummenacker. As you can see it is not
    >a direct quote.
    This was back in early 2002.
    >They are not so cocky now.

    "He feels Alan
    >Webb will revolutionize how the mile is run in
    >the United States. Yes, that's right folks, Alan
    >Webb is going to show us all how to train and run
    >the event correctly. Coach Raczko points out
    >several top American distance runners as to why
    >this country does not have a fleet of top ranked
    >milers in the world. He says guys like David
    >Krummenacker and Gabe Jennings either don't have
    >the necessary speed or form to be among the best
    >in the world. This is a shame since they have the
    >basic tools to be successful."

    Thanks for the quote. Interesting. I agree about Jennings. That quote makes me feel better about what Webb is doing. As a previous poster put it "he is still adjusting back from last year". This may be what is occuring. Raczko is right in focusing on speed development. But, why hasn't Webb been running more short races? Time will tell. Its too early to judge the success of failure.

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    Here is the closest reference I could find on Raz's quote referring to other US milers including Krummenacker. As you can see it is not a direct quote.
    This was back in early 2002. They are not so cocky now.

    "He feels Alan Webb will revolutionize how the mile is run in the United States. Yes, that's right folks, Alan Webb is going to show us all how to train and run the event correctly. Coach Raczko points out several top American distance runners as to why this country does not have a fleet of top ranked milers in the world. He says guys like David Krummenacker and Gabe Jennings either don't have the necessary speed or form to be among the best in the world. This is a shame since they have the basic tools to be successful."

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    Ask a silly
    >question get a silly answer

    Rather, a silly statement deserves no better than a silly response.

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    Actually, I am not into crack. Several years ago on a run in South America I met a bizarre Indian Chief who gave me a magical mushroom concoction. Gebe Jenning is in South America now looking for that very same Indian Chief.

    Ask a silly question get a silly answer

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    Alan
    >Webb's poor 2003 season is one of the great
    >mysteries of US track and field today.
    What is
    >strange is that Webb and his coach are completely
    >silent.

    Where's the mystery? He was adjusting back to training under Raczo after having trained under Warhurst for several months. Nothing to tell. Some people on this board sure act as if they've never even set one foot on the tartan.

    Maybe next time the press won't
    >hype up a high school 4 minute mile.

    What're you smoking and where can I get some?

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    Raczko's comment's about Krummenanacker are well known. Krummenacker need not respond since he is the USA's top distance runner. Webb right now is a mid-pack miler.

    Correction from previous message,
    "After 4:46 1500m", should be instead be 3:46 1500.
    Lunn is not that slow!!

    Alan Webb's poor 2003 season is one of the great mysteries of US track and field today.
    What is strange is that Webb and his coach are completely silent. Its seems now the press has lost all interest in the Webb phenomenon. Still, we may see a USAtoday story entitled "What happened to Alan Webb".

    Maybe next time the press won't hype up a high school 4 minute mile.

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    >Quote from ESPN site:
    In reference to
    >Krummenacker after 3:31 1500 last
    >year.

    "Could this be the same guy
    >(Krummenacker) that Scott Raczko referred to last
    >winter as not having enough speed to be among the
    >best in the world? Raczko, you might remember, is
    >the coach of Alan Webb, the high school
    >phenomenon who was unfortunately saddled with the
    >sobriquet of "America's Next Great
    >Miler."

    Well I still would need to see the quote in context. Granted 3:31 is great but he may still be right. To be "among the best in the world" you need to be able to really blast the last 100m. or need to drive it home from further out at a pace nobody else can match - and that's not easy as El G. knows.

    So, 3:31 is a great time but he may have been talking finishing speed. We don't know if yet if Krum has that speed needed to compete and be in the championship medals.

    Re: Mr. Jennings - no arguments on his stupid comments. He should let the feet do the talking instead of putting them in his mouth. This comment really made him look like he should take a long bike ride and stay away from the sport for as long as possible.

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    Quote from ESPN site:
    In reference to Krummenacker after 3:31 1500 last year.

    "Could this be the same guy (Krummenacker) that Scott Raczko referred to last winter as not having enough speed to be among the best in the world? Raczko, you might remember, is the coach of Alan Webb, the high school phenomenon who was unfortunately saddled with the sobriquet of "America's Next Great Miler."

    In hindsight those comments sound pretty foolish. Gebe Jenning said something equally ridiculous last year when he explained, "I am ready to kick the worlds best miler's ass". This was after a 4:46 1500m performance!!!!

    If you are going to talk like Prefontaine at least back it up on the track.

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    It did wonders for Kennedy.

    I don't think it would work. A.W. is too young. He still needs the support structure. He would be overwhelmed in Kenya. Kennedy was much older when he did it. He was also a 5k guy who had more to gain.

    Webb and his Coach's
    >"revolutionary" training methods are a bust so
    >far. Webb's coach had the gall to criticize
    >Krummenacker training methods earlier this year.
    >In short he said Krummenacker was just not fast
    >enough. It is not Krummenacker who is burning out
    >in the last lap.

    I didn't hear the Raz criticized Krum's training. It sounds more like he may have been critical of Krum's inherent speed. This also seems a bit strange as Krum is much faster at 8 than A.W. Where did you see this? I have a hard time beleiving it. Maybe he was critical of Krum's last 100m in a 1500.

    Anyway I think its still too early to say that the training that produced a prep 3:53 isn't going to work again. But, obviously something is off. I still think Webb might be trying too hard and putting too much into every training session.

    The recovery is as important as the work.

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    Re: no distance is too far

    Most distances ARE too far for TV coverage, though the best news of the day (first seen (by me anyway) on a different chat on this board) is that ESPN2 is carrying the Golden League this summer. A shame that we watch hurdlers warming up for 10 minutes and get the last 30 seconds of a great 5,000 . . . but thank the lord there will be some coverage after all.

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    Love to see the chat messages coming from Al Salazars guys at Team Nike in that pressurized house which simulates 11,000 altitude. Oxygen deprevation has got to produce some wicked hilucinations and some funny (if not garbled) messages.

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    no distance is too far

    because it is a proven scientific fact that distance runners have no life and are computer weanies, who sit around and chat on the internet all day when they are not on LSD. tn

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    Who says there is no interest in distance running in America. On this forum most of the longest threads feature discussions about distance running.

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