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He says he won't compete in the Big Ones anymore. So just the GL paydays after that?
He says he won't compete in the Big Ones anymore. So just the GL paydays after that?
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
Lets see, Seb,Steve,Crammy all sort of gradually faded after injs. Noradine kind of disappeared after El-G became #1. Peter Rono maybe the worst gold medalist at 1500, vanished . So El's probably trying to find retirement with honor. -
Re: El G - 2005 the end?
I would not be suprised to see him toe the line for the 2006 Brussells 10000m.
He could end his career with
3:26.00
3:43.13
4:44.x
7:23 (or faster)
sub12:50
sub27
an impressive ranged only matched by Geb (and later on, Bekele).Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>Peter Rono maybe the worst gold
>medalist at 1500...
Worst? In what way? Did he do something underhand?
Is it because he's Kenyan? African? Black?
Beat the British boys?
Race too slow? Tactics too bland? Last lap not exciting enough?
Didn't 'serve his apprenticeship' winning races beforehand?
Is there something about Rono you know that the rest of us don't?
Did he rustle cattle back in the Rift Valley?
Run off with his brother's wife?
Sneakily train and prepare and execute one perfect race, when it really, really mattered?Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>Lets see, Seb,Steve,Crammy all sort of gradually faded after injs. Noradine
>kind of disappeared after El-G became #1. Peter Rono maybe the worst gold >medalist at 1500, vanished . So El's probably trying to find retirement with >honor.
So I infer that none of those mentioned retired with any honor . . .Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
Then I am a dishonorable fan, because the aforementioned were all fellas I looked up to as athletes - during the good, the bad, and the exceptional times. To continue appreciating them - even after their "declines" - is wrong?Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
Could it be today's athletes who are at the very top have the financial "luxury" to determine how they will go "out in style?"
Is El-G a more precious commodity (appearance fees-wise) if he goes out this way?
It's always been about the money; the older guys mentioned faded and burned out because it was their last chance to grab any money (one way or another); at the same time, today, you have stars in minor events hanging out way too long.
Or maybe some of them just love track and field?Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>>you have stars in minor events hanging out way too >long.
I'm trying very hard to figure out what this comment means.Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>an impressive ranged only matched by Geb (and later on, Bekele).<
What about Saïd Aouita MAR?
1:43.86
3:29.46 WR
3:46.76
7:29.45 WR
12:58.39 WR
27:26.11
So, far I've yet to see any of the top 1500-10k match his 800.Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
Hands down, Geb:
1500m 3:31.76i (second only to El Guerrouj)
2000m 4:52.86i WB
3000m 7:25.09 (third to Komen and El Guerrouj, accepting drug cheat Said-Sief0
2 miles 8:01.08 (former WR, second all time)
2 miles 8:04.69 WB
5000m 12:39.36 (former WR, second all time)
10000m 26:22.75 (former WR, second all time)
10km 27:02 WB
15km 41:38
HM 1:00:03
Marathon 2:06:35
(the road times will no doubt be improved in the coming years)
Geb's at the very top of the world from 1500m to the marathon, while Aouita was 800m to 10000m. Geb had won world titles from 1500m to the Half-Marathon, where as Aouita won world titles at 1500m and 5000m, and a medal at 800m.
Geb's Titles:
1500m: 1999 World Indoor Gold
3000m: 1997, 1999, 2003 World Indoor Gold
5000m: 1992 World Junior Gold, 1993 WCH silver
10000m: 1992 World Junior Gold, 1993, 1995, 1997, 1999 WCH Gold, 2001 WCH bronze, 2003 WCH silver, 1996 and 2000 Gold
Half Marathon: 2001 World Half Marathon Gold.Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>>What
>about Saïd Aouita MAR?
1:43.86
3:29.46 WR
3:46.76
7:29.45 WR
12:58.39
>WR
27:26.11
So, far I've yet to see any of the top 1500-10k match his 800.<
it's worth pointing out that el g has never bothered with distances outside 1.5 - 5k in the last ?10y
if so, you would have had your 1'43, maybe 1k WR & low-27Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
it's worth pointing out that el g has never bothered with
>distances outside 1.5 - 5k in the last ?10y
if so, you would have had your
>1'43, maybe 1k WR & low-27
El G did run 800m & 1000m races in '95...so without trying to be too picky, that was inside ten years...but I don't think since then he has had a serious attempt on those distances...
I like to see him run in an 800m...his finishing 800m split from Athens showed he must be capable of around mid-1:44 to 1:45 in an open 800m...
Prehaps he should try an attack on that magical 2 Mile WR of 7:58.61 by Daniel Komen...Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
it's worth pointing out that el g has never bothered with
>distances outside 1.5 - 5k in the last ?10y
if so, you would have had your
>1'43, maybe 1k WR & low-27
You really think that El G could have possibly run a WR in the 1k?
2:11.96 by Ngeny is pretty tough...but I think Ngeny should have paced himself more for the final 200m. His 800m split was 1:44.62, and his final 200m were run in 27.34...did he die in the final stages, or should a 27+ finishing 200m be expected after an 1:44+ 800m?Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
>You really think that El G could have possibly run a WR in the
>1k?
2:11.96 by Ngeny is pretty tough...but I think Ngeny should have paced
>himself more for the final 200m. His 800m split was 1:44.62, and his final 200m
>were run in 27.34...did he die in the final stages, or should a 27+ finishing
>200m be expected after an 1:44+ 800m?
i get a rough figure of high 2'11's for el g in his 3'26.00 days, but looking at noah's figures, he should have probably gone low 2'11's with better pacing ( & still have the WR )
maybe noah could also have gone 1'42+Comment
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Re: El G - 2005 the end?
Did he rustle cattle back in the Rift Valley?
I thought everyone in the the Rift Valley was a bit of a rustler, so that can't be it.Comment
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