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    Here's a topic I haven't seen addressed before. What do you think is the best performance for a single event in a decathlon. I have to go with Bill Toomey's 1968 Olympic 400m. I think it was the most dominating single event performance I have seen.

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    altitude-aided; way over-rated.

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    • #3
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      Individual event records (as seen on http://www.decathlon2000.ee/eng/index.php ):

      100m - 10,22 Chris Huffins USA (1996 Atlanta)
      Long jump - 8.22 Erki Nool EST (1996 Tallinn)
      Shot put - 19.17 Eddy Hubacher SUI (1969 Bern)
      High jump - 2.27 Christian Schenk GER (1988 Soul)
      400m - 45,68 William Toomey USA (1968 Mexico City)
      110m hurdles - 13,47 Frank Busemann GER (1996 Atlanta)
      Discus - 55.14 Norbert Demmel GER (1995 Götzis)
      Pole vault - 5.76 Tim Lobinger GER (1999 Leverkusen)
      Javelin - 79.80 Peter Blank GER (1992 Emmelshausen)
      1500m - 3.58,7 Robert Baker USA (1980 Austin)


      Difficult to say which is the best. Nool's LJ and Schenk's HJ both seem pretty tough. Lobinger's PV is, of course, a tough mark but slightly below-par for him (a few more deca's and he could have got the record to about 5.80 - 5.85m).

      Toomey's 45.68 is great, but factor in the altitude and it's probably worth outside 46 sec. Plus, considering there's a junior decathlete from Uruguay (Andrés Silva, born in 1986) with a 400m PB of 45.80, then Toomey's record might not be around for much longer.

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      • #4
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        That Busemann mark looks quite impressive. But it seems too that Decathaletes in general should be doing much better in the 110H. The event requires a nexus of talents that should be there for good decathaletes and we dont seem to see the times showing this.
        ... nothing really ever changes my friend, new lines for old, new lines for old.

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        • #5
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          >That Busemann mark looks quite impressive

          (thanks to Jon for the first link, and for the all-time best marks per event)

          IAAF SCORING TABLES:

          1135 pts 100m - 10,22 Chris Huffins USA (1996 Atlanta)
          1172 pts Long jump - 8.22 Erki Nool EST (1996 Tallinn)
          1070 pts Shot put - 19.17 Eddy Hubacher SUI (1969 Bern)
          1128 pts High jump - 2.27 Christian Schenk GER (1988 Soul)
          1138 pts 400m - 45,68 William Toomey USA (1968 Mexico City)
          1178 pts 110m hurdles - 13,47 Frank Busemann GER (1996 Atlanta)
          959 pts Discus - 55.14 Norbert Demmel GER (1995 Götzis)
          1174 pts Pole vault - 5.76 Tim Lobinger GER (1999 Leverkusen)
          1074 pts Javelin - 79.80 Peter Blank GER (1992 Emmelshausen)
          870 pts 1500m - 3.58,7 Robert Baker USA (1980 Austin)

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          • #6
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            cant remember his name, but wasnt there a dec. guy in the 90's that pv 19'?

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            • #7
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              Question - why is Discus best so short/low score?
              Tom Hyland:
              "squack and wineturtle get it"

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              • #8
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                <cant remember his name, but wasnt there a dec. guy in the 90's that pv 19'?>

                I thought Tim Bright did in '88; but apparently not.
                "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                • #9
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                  >cant remember his name, but wasnt there a dec. guy in the 90's that pv 19'?

                  Because Lobinger:s name came up on the all-time Deca-event list, and since Lobinger has cleared 6,00m - or 19-8,25 for you metrically-challenged - I venture to say that in a strictly technical sense of the word, Lobinger, a pole-vaulter who has competed in one/several decathlons and has jumped over 19.00-ft, is likely the man in question.

                  Köln 24 08 1997 1st place, 6,00m.

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                  • #10
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                    ... a 10898 total, which would be amazing if one person could do it all.

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                    • #11
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                      I am pretty sure Pego is right, but his big jumps were in individual competitions, not multis.

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                      • #12
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                        Because its difficult enough to master as your main event let alone as part of ten!!!

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                        • #13
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                          >Question - why is Discus best so short/low score?>>

                          Because the body type required to throw the discus well isn't particularly conducive to too many of the other events.

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                          • #14
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                            >Because its difficult enough to master as your main event let alone as part of
                            >ten!!!

                            I understand the one of ten thing but to the untrained eye the only event of the group that is under the 1,000 point mark and well below the non 1500 average of1110 or so. The placemewnt on second day when you are tired is one thing but the PV is after it. Please help me understand the special problems with this rotation?
                            Tom Hyland:
                            "squack and wineturtle get it"

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                            • #15
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                              <1070 pts Shot put - 19.17 Eddy Hubacher SUI (1969 Bern)

                              While not a great open shot mark, it is way ahead of the typical 8-9k decathlete. Shot/Disc/1500 are the 3 low scorers, and as gh pointed out, it all has to do with body type. A sprinter/jumper build can masters the 7 other events but the lack of mass limits the shot/disc. Training too much for the 1500 basically has deminishing returns for most 8-9k decathletes.

                              Would any of the 10 marks make an Olympic final? Perhaps Blank's jave throw?

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