Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

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1. 52 KIPKURUI Benjamin 80 KEN 3:34,34
2. 54 KORIR Paul 77 KEN 3:34,49
3. 48 BOUKENSA Tarek 81 ALG 3:34,74
4. 55 LIEFERS Jan-Gert 78 NED 3:34,76
5. 51 KHALDI Mohamed 75 ALG 3:36,12
6. 49 DE SOUZA Hudson 77 BRA 3:36,41
7. 106 WILLIS Nick NZL 3:36,58
8. 47 BERRYHILL Bryan 77 USA 3:36,68
9. 63 LUNN Jason USA 3:36,99
10. 62 BOULAHFANE Kamel 76 ALG 3:37,46
11. 61 ZORKO Branko 67 CRO 3:37,58
12. 60 STRAUBAKOS Panayiotis 72 GRE 3:37,97
13. 46 BALGAČ Dalibor 77 CRO 3:38,34
14. 59 SNEBERGER Michal 78 CZE 3:41,67
15. 58 PROELL Martin 81 AUT 3:42,72

Another sound beating in a slow 1500.

[Guest]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

Middle of the pack - not great but not all that terrible. They got the qualifier didn't they?

[Guest]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

The qualifying standard is 3:34.95. If they Push it a little more they have it.
A year ago this is the kind of race I thought Webb would be winning with ease.

[gh]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

They got the B qualifier of 3:37.10, not the A qualifier of 3:34.90. Lunn already had a B, so this changes nothing. Until two others from the Palo Alto final get an A, his winning with a B trumps all other times.

[Guest]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

1500 Qualifying Standards for Worlds
A 3:34.90 B 3:37.10

Lunn's been in several quality races since heading to Europe. Berryhill may just be getting race fit (injured early in the season) but I think Lunn may be tapped out. He's been racing regularly since the winter and has definitely hit a plateau.

[Guest]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

It seems just about every international miler can now run a 3:55 mile (3:36 1500m). The 3:55 mile is as common place as 4:00 mile was in 1975.

If thing continue to progress like this the new WC qualifying standard maybe 3:30 (3:50mile) for the 1500m by 2010.

[bubba]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

Maybe after Lassiter's 3:50 this weekend he'll pop the A? oh wait that was for 1500 meters

[LongTimeSubscriber]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

I see no reason to send either or both to the World Championships even if they get the qualifying A standard. The USATF should save its and the taxpayers money!

[gh]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

Taxpayers? USATF doesn't see a nickel of taxpayer money that I'm aware of.

[tandfman]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

It has been a long-standing USATF policy, and one that I agree with, to send every qualified athlete to the World Championhips and Olympics, whether or not they have a realistic chance of winning a medal. Not every country follows that policy. The athletes of those countries suffer by not getting the opportunity to compete at that level. Even those who will surely not be medalists this year will benefit from the experience of this championship-level competition. USATF should continue its policy as long as it can afford it.

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Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

>They got the B qualifier of 3:37.10, not the A
>qualifier of 3:34.90. Lunn already had a B, so
>this changes nothing. Until two others from the
>Palo Alto final get an A, his winning with a B
>trumps all other times.>

You sure about that B for Lunn prior to today? He hadn't run it this year and didn't in 2002.

[MJD]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

>>They got the B qualifier of 3:37.10, not the
>A
>qualifier of 3:34.90. Lunn already had a B,
>so
>this changes nothing. Until two others from
>the
>Palo Alto final get an A, his winning with
>a B
>trumps all other times.>

You sure about
>that B for Lunn prior to today? He hadn't run it
>this year and didn't in 2002.

I'm going with gh on this one...

[gh]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

Doh! Anybody who went w/ me is a loser. Lunn indeed needed this to take the team spot. (And, to clarify, he gets it, even though Berryhill beat him here)

[tandfman]

Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

>I'm going with gh on this one...<

Canadian solidarity, eh? Well, I think you're both wrong.

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Re: Croatia 1500 Berryhill/Lunn

>>>They got the B qualifier of 3:37.10, not
>the
>A
>qualifier of 3:34.90. Lunn already had
>a B,
>so
>this changes nothing. Until two
>others from
>the
>Palo Alto final get an A, his
>winning with
>a B
>trumps all other
>times.>

You sure about
>that B for Lunn prior
>to today? He hadn't run it
>this year and didn't
>in 2002.

I'm going with gh on this
>one...>

Lunn ran 3:40 last year and hadn't run faster than 3:37.10 this year.

It's possible that his 3:54 from Pre could be converted into a qualifier but 1. I'm not sure that is fast enough and 2. Whether converted marks can be used.

Normally I'd go with gh but unless there is some further info about Lunn I think he's wrong on this one.