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    mr magoo needs to get back on his prozac or get a life !

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    <Its BS for Masback to dissociate from the problem. Track is the leader in the steroid crowd, and we shouldn't hide from it. Word on the ciruit is that Masback came in planning to clean things up, delved in and realized how bad the problem was, and joined everyone else in covering it up with excuses, etc. The rationalization: if all of our records are based on roid-enhanced performances, the sport will fall apart.>.

    this is a baseless accusation, no facts just slander. watch out what you say dude !

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    >If money was all that mattered, why would they
    >test for drugs at all?

    Because the majority of the public (who mostly are not hard-core fans) is disgusted by drug use, and McDonalds and Coca-Cola (the REAL money behind the Olympics) want feel-good Olympic images for their cash instead of disappointing ones. Unlike professional sports organizations, Olympic sports are so broad-based and politically structured that it's impossible to keep a lid on stories like this one. There are less than 1000 players in MLB while there may be as more than a billion people who compete in sports organized and administered by organizations linked to the IOC in one way or another (example: local triathlon club --> USA Triathlon --> Int'l Triathlon Union --> IOC)

    In Olympic sports, stories get out, sport gets bad image, sponsors aren't happy. You can't keep a billion mouths shut, so drug testing is the only way to stop (or in actuality slow down) the beginning of that series of events. The problem we have here is that testing improves in fits and starts; the cleanest recent year in track was probably 1991, a time when the changes made after the last big scandal made athletes actually afraid of getting caught. That's how you keep people from breaking a rule -- you make them think there's a pretty good chance they'll get caught.

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    Which is essentially what happened in baseball, with suddenly huge guys hitting 60-70 homers a year and the sport selling the hell out of them. At least track has given some lip service to doing the right thing.

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    But Helen we had almost the identical scenario(braces & beards) previously. Did we not?

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  • Hunter
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    If money was all that mattered, why would they test for drugs at all? If it was just about money and ratings, the powers that be would encourage, supply and develop drugs, and guys would be running 9.5 100's, and throwing the discus 260 feet.

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    If the mentioned athletes were not in the 2000 games because they were not eligible because they were 'roid users, ratings would have been the same- I think good races are good races, be they HS kids trying to run 11.0 or 4:30, or clean women trying to run 11.0 or 4:20.
    Maybe the pro track circuit could reform for drug induced perforamnces- no testing, sponsored by various pharmacutical companies- but personally I would have no interest seeing huge yellow eyed monsters wearing braces blasting 9.2 for 100 meters, and women with beards putting 80 feet.

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    Mr.mangoo is right....Think for a minute if M.Johnson/Marion Jones/ and Maruice Greene was out of the 2000 Olympics...Do you know now bad the ratings would have been?????? Money makes the world go round remember...

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    >Nothing will change, and nothing will get done.>>

    Then why do you even bother wasting your time on this board? You just like to bitch?

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    Nothing will change, and nothing will get done.

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    Its BS for Masback to dissociate from the problem. Track is the leader in the steroid crowd, and we shouldn't hide from it. Word on the ciruit is that Masback came in planning to clean things up, delved in and realized how bad the problem was, and joined everyone else in covering it up with excuses, etc. The rationalization: if all of our records are based on roid-enhanced performances, the sport will fall apart.

    We need to come clean, start over, and get our credibility back. And in the meantime, maybe we can benefit from the spotlight that is being shined on all sports with this. We should be the leaders on cleaning up, and not be pushed by the government, the NFL, or MLB to get our act together.

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    Are you saying that the change from USATF to USADA handling doping controls is not progress for which USATF and Masback should get at least a little credit?

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    Malmo is spot-on that the fedreation has been "an enabler to busted athletes" but I think pointing the finger at Masback is wrong. It was the same under Cassell and I think you'll find that neither Masback nor Cassell have ever had anything to do with the hearings that get athletes off.

    It's the people on the hearing panels who buy bullshit excuses (read, Dennis Mitchell) that need to be shot. And I suspect it's a too-powerful Athletes Advisory Council that's the root of the problem. Not a powerful union like the professional ball leagues have, but one strong enough to influence this kind of decision making in the wrong direction.

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    The
    >federal government has got to get involved, not
    >just in raiding labs but in changing laws."

    Under Masback's leadership the USATF has not been engaged in the issue, except to act as an enabler to busted athletes. Perhaps that's the real problem?

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  • bubba
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    Lots of WADA banned drugs are not illegal, like Andro. Do you think Andro, drug Mark McGuire had in his locker during his HR peak (see St. Louis newspaper for more info), which is banned by WADA as a steroid and even the NFL should be available to teenagers?

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