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    Finally, a voice in the mainstream media points out the obvious flaw in the "track is a dirty sport" myth: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wi ... d=24355985
    "Run fast and keep turning left."

  • #2
    Re: Good A.P. editorial

    good call - the sporting public assumes we're the dirtiest only because we are the most vigilent at testing and reporting. Imagine if the NFL or MLB tested as we do.

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    • #3
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      What's funny is the athletes in basketball, football and baseball don't even need "designer" steroids, plain old steroids work fine when you're not being tested or at least not being tested very often. Anyone know exactly what they test for in MLB and the NFL and how often they test (do they ever actually test or do they just talk about it). I don't think the NBA tests at all at this point.

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      • #4
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        MLB does not test; the players union is the strongest in any sport, hence the difficulties there.

        In fairness, the NFL actually does a good deal of testing. They don't do blood testing to detect HGH (nobody in any sport does). But their testing program is pretty rigorous.

        I don't know about the NBA.

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        • #5
          Re: Good A.P. editorial

          >MLB does not test; the players union is the
          >strongest in any sport, hence the difficulties
          >there.

          In fairness, the NFL actually does a
          >good deal of testing. They don't do blood
          >testing to detect HGH (nobody in any sport does).
          >But their testing program is pretty
          >rigorous.

          I don't know about the NBA.>

          It is inconceivable to me that the NFL is on the up and up with the testing they supposedly do. Either they don't really test or they hide some results.

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          • #6
            Re: Good A.P. editorial

            Note that Donald Fehr has been a member of the USOC Board And the Senate's USOC reform task force while simultaneously heading the MLB union that has fought against baseball players being drug tested. Pretty sad.

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            • #7
              Re: Good A.P. editorial

              It would be nice to see the NFL and other major sports pool their resources with the USADA to test their athletes...So much money has been spent internationaly to develop these tests for testing Olympic athletes and to my knowledge the NFL has not taken advantage of these tests nor do they use the labs that the IAAF etc use to test their athletes (can someone please correct me if I'm wrong). This leads me to believe that the testing in the NFL is either woefully behind what we even have in track or is pretty much non-existant. They have certainly caught far fewer players over the last couple of years than we have in track (come to think of it have they caught any?).

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              • #8
                Re: Good A.P. editorial

                <<In fairness, the NFL actually does a
                good deal of testing. They don't do blood
                testing to detect HGH (nobody in any sport does).
                But their testing program is pretty
                rigorous.>>

                This a bit off-topic and possibly fictional, but on a recent episode of ESPN's "Playmakers", one of the characters avoided detection by having a doctor drain and clean his bladder of the drug-heavy urine, after which the doctor injected someone else's clean urine into the bladder.

                GROSS!!!

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                • #9
                  Re: Good A.P. editorial

                  This a
                  >bit off-topic and possibly fictional, but on a
                  >recent episode of ESPN's "Playmakers", one of
                  >the characters avoided detection by having a
                  >doctor drain and clean his bladder of the
                  >drug-heavy urine, after which the doctor injected
                  >someone else's clean urine into the
                  >bladder.

                  GROSS!!!

                  There was a very similar scene in the movie "The Program"...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Good A.P. editorial

                    Couple points:

                    First, to Randy Mayes: yes, the NFL has caught a fair number of players over the past couple years. Notable examples include Julius Peppers and Lee Flowers; there have been a number of others.

                    Second, regarding the Playmakers show: that show has no resemblance to reality. Sure, some stuff goes on in the NFL, but that show (like Oliver Stone's ridiculous Any Given Sunday) is a huge exaggeration.

                    Third, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the NFL's testing program; I believe the NFL has done quite alot.

                    However, the NFL is actually not really relevant on this board; criticizing the NFL about its supposed shortcomings in this area really just deflects attention away from our own sport, which should be the main subject of this message board and is actually in a very sorry state regarding drugs.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Good A.P. editorial

                      Somebody on the t-and-f listserv opined that this drug scandal might take us back to "pre-1958" times; I say if the NFL tested as vigorously as track & field, we'd go back to the days of linemen weighing 250-275 pounds.
                      "Run fast and keep turning left."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Good A.P. editorial

                        I'd say the testing of other sports is relevant. T&F competes for viewers and sponsorship dollars against those other sports. Getting black eye after black eye for testing while other sports are not testing, or are testing at a lesser level, gives them an advantage and ultimately hurts our sport.

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                        • #13
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                          An Ex-Cowboy (name escapes except that he's a spokeman for NORML now!) explained last year how the NFL drug testing program. They test once per year and you get 4 months notice before your test date. That's how he was able to fire up a bowl daily for his 10+ year career and not get caught.

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                          • #14
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                            "this drug scandal might take us back to "pre-1958" times"

                            Not a chance. 45 years of accumulated knowledge pertaining to training (including use of weights) means today's athletes have a lot of science in addition to drugs to help them run swifter, jump higher and throw farther. And they run on much faster tracks, and there is a worldwide talent pool which dwarfs the number of participants in the 1950's. Get real.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Good A.P. editorial

                              Cooter Brown: how long ago was this ex-Cowboy in the league? Things have gotten stricter in the last few years.

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