Lifetime Ban First Time Steroid Use: Not A Good Idea

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If you think the no false start rule was bad (or charging the whole field), you ain't seen anything, yet....!

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great idea

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>great idea

Be prepared for at least 10 Butch Reynolds cases per season, if not more.

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Apart from whether or not it's a good idea, it's not legal.

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explain law guy. they should be able to do what they like if the rules are clearly defined

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Agreed with Savante - they can do this is they establish a clear rule

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Recall the Krabbe case-

http://www.mariusbakken.com/cgi-bin/new ... 2150,27657,

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Probably not possible due to restraint of trade. Savante, did the athletes know this was coming before it came out into the open?

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I dont think that it mattered if they knew what the punishment would be they knew that by taking this dirty drug they were cheating as well as decieving the public who pays to watch them. They are a black eye to the sport in the worse sense and the lifetime ban in the best punishment to fit the crime

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I think that a life time ban for thg is good because this was a man made steriod and they had to have some type of information about it. Some one had to tell them how to take it and what was in it. It is your responsibility and decision on what you take so it is the individual's fault and this is fair

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>Probably not possible due to restraint of trade.

Depends on the country. There is precious little in the USA that protects the right of workers in any profession. Lawyers are disbarred, teachers lose liscences, etc., and they have to find a different line of work. The courts do not protect them.

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>explain law guy. they should be able to do what
they like if the rules are clearly defined<

US Federal law says that our National Governing Bodies cannot have eligibility requirements that are more strict than those of their respective International Federations (in our case, the IAAF). The IAAF punishment for first doping offenses is maximum two years of ineligibility. So that becomes USATF's maximum too.

I personally have no problem with a lifetime ban for first offenders. It sure would be a better deterrent than what we've got now. But it just wouldn't fly legally.

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Dont know much about federal laws but I would hope that USATF did their homework before putting this out. I also think that this should be something that the IAAF adds also because their are a lot of people who take the 2 year ban come back and continue to make money and mis use the system. i also think to add to the rule that all winnings should have to be given back if you fail a doping test. Look at chambers he has made a lot of money in the sport and he will still be able to get the money he won. regardless if an athlete did not test positive at a certain all monies should be forfited. But that is just my opinion I could be wrong

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>Dont know much about federal laws but I would hope that USATF did their homework before putting
this out.<

Of course they did their homework. That's why this particular proposal was worded so cautiously.

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Am real pleased to see positive feedback from current athletes like Stringfellow and Brew on the lifetime ban of positive testers...I agree wholeheartedly...two years is a lightweight slap on the wrist and does not strongly enough encourage compliance...the goal is for clean athletes to rest assured that they are on a level playing field and not have to continue to second guess as to whether theit competitors are playing fair...I like the catch line used by WADA (World Anti-doping Agency)..."play true"

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