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My understanding is that Marion Jones began taking drugs in 2000. But weren't her PR's (10.65, 21.81 and 23-11+) set before that....1998 I believe? If so, what an irony, and tragedy....she didn't need those drugs.
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her 200 pb is 21.62a but it was set in 98i deserve extra credit -
That's her story... we have only her say-so on it, and as we've discovered, she ended up in jail for being a liar.
It's not an illogical assumption to draw that when she re-emerged on the track scene in '97 with a body sculpted by god (and with the company that she was keeping) that she had been busy in the interim.Comment
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olympic calibre basketballers don't train hard enough to get sculpted bodies nor get tested whilst playing basketball ?!Comment
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GH, plainly said, and sadly in all probability, accurately said.Originally posted by ghComment
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Yup.Originally posted by dukehjsteveComment
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I don't follow women's hoops well enough to make a definitive statement, but no, I've never seen a basketball player with a body like Marion's (not a woman at least). Her basketball career was over a year before she emerged as a sprinter again in '97, so what testing, if any, existed in that realm is irrelevant.Originally posted by eldrickComment
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Jones played for the Tarheels in 1997, finishing the season in march. 13 weeks later, she was a double (triple?) USA track and field champion. Word from folks here on the boards was that she was more out of shape (looking) than ever. She suffered two major injuries in hoops (broken leg). Didn't run a 100m race from her second year onward. She then ran 11,4x in her first race back, but somehow mustered her first sub-11,00 times at USA Champs. Her reason for her fast improving times was simply that Graham changed her block positions and made a couple of other minor adjustments.
Presto.Comment
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no surprise there as she already had 11.14 ability as a kid & was probably 1/2 foot taller & 20 pound more muscular in '07Originally posted by EPelle
1993 11.28 1.40 Norwalk 04/06/199
1992 11.14 1.70 Norwalk 06/06/1992
1991 11.17 2.00 Cerritos 01/06/1991Comment
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How many women's basketball players have you seen in spandex? They're in pretty good shape, but they rarely have that track and field sculpted look to them. Different kinds of training.Originally posted by eldrickComment
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I had forgotten that she played hoops again in '97... thought she had given it up after her second broken foot (not leg) in '96.Originally posted by EPelleComment
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Huh? :shock: :? I realize that you Europeans have been on the metric system for a while now, but you do realize that a half foot is 15 cm's, don't you?Originally posted by eldrickComment
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No, she was listed as 5-10/140 in the '92 season, same as when she broke out in '97.Originally posted by eldrickComment
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The short answer to all this is, we don't know exactly how fast she was or could have been, in fantasy or reality. On top of that, only her record of performances from the XXVIII Olympiad in Sydney (2000) to the day she sang (I believe it was Oct. 7, 2007) have been stricken from the books, and the money she made during that period ordered recalled. Unfortunately, as with all things DDR, CCCP and CHN ('93-'97), what she did before Sydney stays in the books, including her 10.65A, 21.62A and 7,31 long jump, not to mention a little-known 4x200 WR of 1:27.34 at the 2000 Penn Relays, where she anchored in 20.8...
...That is, unless Trevor Graham spills all the beans on his entire program in the years 1997 to 1999, or Marion herself finally comes to realize that she can't run or hide from herself anymore, and tells everything that went on in those 3 seasons, without sugar-coating a thing.
I doubt it, though. For one, she wasn't the only one who might have been dirty during that period. For another, she can't afford it, because all the money she made between June, 1997 and August, 2000, is gone. She has nothing to give back if she is stripped of her 1997-99 seasons.
Last but not least, I don't think the track world can afford it. If she loses everything from her 1997-99 performances, a whole slew of meet records, including her World Cup record of 10.65, along with several 10.71s, 10.72s, 10.74s and 10.75s, would have to be wiped out, along with the awards and money she earned.. Her 1999 World Championship record of 10.70 would get tossed, and the AR of 41.47 in 1997 would be stricken, for which she, Chryste Gaines (who herself had been suspended), Inger Miller and Gail Devers would have to return their gold medals.
Who knows how many meet records and medals would have to change hands because of her? And who knows how much more money would have to be given out, when she is removed from the record books and the 4th-place finishers at these meets are elevated to 3rd? It would be a logistical nightmare.
And she is almost certainly not the only one. The fact that she was the biggest fish out there made her a big target.Comment
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at this point, long string of unacceptable posts removed by mods.... this forum does not tolerate idle drug speculation about people who have never tested positive.Comment
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