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    Babe Ruth on steroids?!

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2422949

  • #2
    Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

    He makes some valid points but this...:

    "There are small, petite guys who have been caught doing drugs, too," he said. "Runners, marathoners, all walks of life, all types of athletes have been caught doing illegal performance-enhancing drugs. So to sit there and say, `Well, he's big, so he does it; he's not big -- he doesn't do it,' is a bunch of crap. Sure, it might be more obvious from one from another, but it's still a bunch of crap."

    ...is actually a bunch of crap. It's the change in size that raises eyebrows particularly when it results in a change in hat size.

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    • #3
      Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

      Of course, Ruth and Gehrig weren't on steroids. The anabolic steroids weren't available in their time.
      "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
      by Thomas Henry Huxley

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      • #4
        Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

        >Of course, Ruth and Gehrig weren't on steroids. The anabolic steroids weren't
        >available in their time.


        I think he is saying that they could have been on something-not necessasrily steroids.

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        • #5
          Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

          I am not aware of anything worthwhile available in their day. I am not saying they wouldn't have if they could, only that it wasn't there :-)
          "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
          by Thomas Henry Huxley

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          • #6
            Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

            Well, they used to give racehorses heroin. That's how it got the nickname "horse". Amphetamines didn't come about until about World War II. I can't see how opiates or cannabis would benefit a baseball player. But then again, cocaine was pretty popular back in those days.

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            • #7
              Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

              Don't forget, Jeff Kent is the same guy who broke his arm doing Wheelies on his motorcycle, and then tried to claim he broke it washing his car. Never known as the brighest star in the sky.

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              • #8
                Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Manager

                "Robinson said he does not believe that using steroids or other performance-enhancing substances is cheating."


                http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/Art ... TopStories

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                • #9
                  Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Manager

                  Here's a new story about Bonds and others:
                  http://www.ajc.com/news/content/sports/ ... bonds.html

                  On a more positive note, Atlanta Brave's pitcher John Smoltz thinks that something needs to be done about steroid use in baseball:
                  http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sport ... roids.html

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

                    >Well, they used to give racehorses heroin. That's how it got the nickname
                    >"horse".

                    Try as i might, cannot find one etymological reference that would indicate such a claim.....

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

                      typical "protect the pro sports' image" sports writing. the writer never examines whether steroids were available in the babe's day, which is a ludicrous suggestion and a straw man. i once read something about paavo nurmi using and endorsing something made from bull testicles (think it was bulls, anyway) which likely didn't boost performance at all. i don't think even testosterone was available until years after ruth retired.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

                        The Nazis experimented on their infantry men with steroids and speed, that's the first incidents I know of where steroids and other performance enhancing drugs were used on human subjects. This was done well after Ruth retired in 35'

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

                          Testosterone was isolated and identified in 1935, so there is obviously no way Ruth could have used them for performance enhancing. If beer is a performance enhancer, then someone should strike his records from the book. Jeff Kent is an idiot and should be publicly drawn and quartered.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Another Neanderthal Baseball Player

                            >Jeff Kent is an idiot and should be publicly drawn and quartered.

                            You've been reading too much Foucault.

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