And Marion Says She'll Sue...

[gh]

Reuters story

<< ... If I make the Olympic team and I am held from the Olympic Games because of something somebody thought, you can pretty much bet there will be lawsuits," Jones said Sunday, at a United States Olympic Committee media summit. "I don't have a problem saying that.

"I'm not just going to sit down and let someone or a group of people or organization take away my livelihood because of a hunch, because of a thought, because of someone who is trying to show their power."........>>

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=5156168

[mrbowie]

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Marion is a great runner, but she should enlist some professional help to guide her through the next couple of months. She needs some sound PR and legal advice, and based on this latest bit of news, she could use some assistance.

[Track fan]

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I think Marion Jones suffers from foot in mouth disease.

[Oletimer]

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Please remember that just because you read it in the Times, or anywhere else, doesn't make it true. Maybe she said it, maybe it's just a good story.

[Hithel]

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I just saw her say those words on TV, so it's just not a story. That level of defensive behaviour is peculiar for someone claiming to be innocent.

[Hulk]

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>That level of defensive behaviour is peculiar for someone claiming to be innocent.

Why? Should an innocent person sit back while she is banned from competition for no reason?

In fact, given that you could argue that her response *is* one of an innocent person!

[ycn]

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The quote is verbatim from a news conference that was planned and held for a PR moment for Marion and Tim Montgomery. It's been used with the identical wording by a number of different reporters that were there.

Tim came down with a case of "stomach flu" at the last moment and couldn't fly to the news conference.

I can imagine that the press might have used the moment of both of them together to ask some unusually pointed questions that at least one of them would have been expected to answer.

[malmo]

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Innocent people don't need to hire a team of lawyers to tell them what they can and cannot say. "I'd really like to say more but my lawyers won't allow me." Huh? They also do not speak in odd phrases such as "that's our story and we're sticking with it."

This is the most guilty sounding athlete since, well, Mary Slaney. As soon as you hear an athlete making premature threats to "sue everyone!" you've got to think there's something there.

Maybe what it all boils down to is Marion has just surrounded herself with bad handlers? Or maybe the body language is real? Who knows? We'll find out soon enough.

[gh]

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Mo Greene says he backs USADA (and Allen Johnson is noncommital)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... &e=1&ncid=

[Kurt Francis]

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Malmo:

You seem to forget, conveniently, that testimony provided to the grand jury in this case by Marion and others is not to be talked about by Marion. It is this information that her lawyers are telling her to avoid, not the fact that she says she is innocent. You Europeans, of course, believe a person must clear themselves of guilt. We here in the USA believe just the opposite in terms of our legal rulings. Thank God that I live in the USA!

Kurt

[Jefferson Buffalo]

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>>That level of defensive behaviour is peculiar for someone claiming to be innocent.
Why? Should an innocent person sit back while she is banned from competition for no reason?
In fact, given that you could argue that her response *is* one of an innocent person!<<

As WJC might have said, that depends on how you define "is."

[marknhj]

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>Malmo:

You seem to forget, conveniently, that testimony provided to the
>grand jury in this case by Marion and others is not to be talked about by
>Marion. It is this information that her lawyers are telling her to avoid, not
>the fact that she says she is innocent. You Europeans, of course, believe a
>person must clear themselves of guilt. We here in the USA believe just the
>opposite in terms of our legal rulings. Thank God that I live in the
>USA!

Kurt >>>>

Kurt,

I usually enjoy your posts. However, you may wish to edit this one before Malmo or Rob show up! Firstly, Malmo is American and represented the US at the OG. Secondly, your statement about "you Europeans..." is ridiculous. I'm no expert on law but need to point out that your system is based on English Common Law, systems that were first initiated in the 12th Century by Henry the Second. Your reasoning can only be applied to the old Eastern Block which is long gone.

Getting back to T&F: I hope with all my heart that MJ is innocent. Frankly I doubt if we'll ever know as she's not likely to test + anytime soon. However, like Malmo, her strange statements are making me incredibly suspicious. She has made several similar to, "that's what we're sticking to". Also, she said she'd only met/spoken to Conte a couple of times yet there's an ad with her picture next to him, copy endorsing BALCO products, the check, plus Conte's internet postings saying he has copies of cashiers checks he got from her and Montgomery (see them on iaaf.org anti-doping thread, Jon posted them last week). These facts, plus her defiant attitude, are making me extremely concerned about the inevitable damage to our sport should she be officially accused.

[malmo]

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>Malmo:

You seem to forget, conveniently, that testimony provided to the
>grand jury in this case by Marion and others is not to be talked about by
>Marion. It is this information that her lawyers are telling her to avoid, not
>the fact that she says she is innocent. You Europeans, of course, believe a
>person must clear themselves of guilt. We here in the USA believe just the
>opposite in terms of our legal rulings. Thank God that I live in the
>USA!

You are wrong. As a matter of fact, the only ones who can reveal what happens in front of the grand jury are the subpoenaed. Witnesses are NOT sworn to secrecy. All other participants in the process are muzzled. That, my friend, is the American system.

MARKNHJ SEZ: malmo is American and represented the US at the OG

MALMO SEZ: never made it to the big show marknhj. But had I, I'd have damn well given 'em hell.

[MJD]

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>Malmo:

You seem to forget, conveniently, that testimony provided to the
>grand jury in this case by Marion and others is not to be talked about by
>Marion.

That is actually dead wrong. Perhaps you better get your legal system straight in your own mind before you start lecturing others on theirs. The prohibition does not apply to the witnesses.

[marknhj]

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MARKNHJ SEZ: malmo is American and
>represented the US at the OG

MALMO SEZ: never made it to the big show
>marknhj. But had I, I'd have given 'em hell.>>>

Ah, right. I'd thought you'd made Montreal but now remember you dropped a bowling ball on your foot the night before the trials. I got injured the day before I flew to LA, NH-ed for the only time in my career. These things happen.