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  • Swimming--"The Clean Sport"

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 6QPD81.DTL

  • #2
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    The lady doth protest. Being smug never works out.

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    • #3
      Re: Swimming--

      To paraphrase someone else over here, it looks like the sport is clean because they are a little more "Talibanish". Not to mention that you can't get a much more technical aport.

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      • #4
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        Typical commentary by another "pie-in-the-sky, it's just a few bad apples" sports writer that most likely stopped competing in sports during his high school years. Worthless commentary.

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        • #5
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          "If you're an elite swimmer you can count on being tested a couple times a week." !!??!! This seems MOST unlikely to me. They'd need a city full of warehouses to store all those p-specimens. Skepticism is warranted here...

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          • #6
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            >sports writer that most likely stopped competing in sports during his high
            >school years. Worthless commentary.

            you have just described 99% of the posters on this board. How long should a sports writer compete before commentary is worth something?

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            • #7
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              Do you really think that particular writer had any specific lengthy experience in swimming? Very much doubt it. If he did, he would know that there's always a drug scandal bubbling just beneath the surface in most Oly sports. To categorically deny ANY drug problem is very naive. The problem I have with most track articles is that the writer really does NOT have any insight into the sport, he/she is merely completing an assignment. There are several very good reporters (Patrick in USAT comes to mind), but most are just writers on assignment.

              As for the credentials of posters here - you'd be surprised. Last competed two weeks ago, and coach virtually year-round. There's some pretty impressively credentialed regulars.

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              • #8
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                Coach:

                I think (I hope) most of us on this board have more than just a HS version for our sporting experiences. Most sports writers I've read and witnessed appear to me (IMHO) to be nothing more than frustrated former HS athletes, and sometimes even less than that. While they are certainly entitled to express themselves through the written or spoken word, those of us who've gone beyond those experiences of our youth have far more understanding of the sport at all levels. I'm sure that applies with all the other sports, too. I continue to coach (D3 college) and compete from time-to-time, but I long ago gave up any notions that the sport was ever "clean". I've known too many athletes personally that at some point or another took some type of performance enhancing substance, whether it be stimulants, steroids, or what-not. To try and discriminate between non-enhanced records and those without aid is an impossible task. The higher up you go in the sport, the more "tainted" the records are. I am under no delusion that they aren't. Unfortunately, many in the sports world are still under those delusions.

                Kurt

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                • #9
                  Re: Swimming--

                  Kurt is spot on. The swimmers I met at various Games told me their sport was just as bad as T&F on the doping front. Even met a Brit Olympian who trained in Maimi on LSD. He said it alleviated the boredom and you could swim for hours without caring (theory based, I believe, on Indians who took peyote and could run for hours at a time).

                  I have to disagree about journalists. The ones I knew had no T&F background on the competitive/coaching front but were highly knowledgable and enthusiastic about all aspects of T&F.

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                  • #10
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                    <How long should a sports writer compete before commentary is worth something?>

                    Are you saying that unless you had been a competitor, your opinion is worthless? If you do, what a BS!
                    "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                    by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                    • #11
                      Re: Swimming--

                      No, to be fair, he's saying that competitors see a side of the sport that is invisible (or nearly so) to fans. I don't see how one could argue with that...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Swimming--

                        If he says that, I for sure missed it even after re-reading it.
                        "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                        by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                        • #13
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                          Seeing a side and being able to communicate it can be two diametrically opposite things.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Swimming--

                            Kuha has interpreted my thoughts correctly. Unfortunately, I am not so eloquent when it comes to expressing my thoughts through a keyboard. I'm even worse verbally. Although I know what I'm trying to communicate, there isn't enough time in a day to produce wording that would thorougly communicate what I'm trying to say.

                            Kurt

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                            • #15
                              Re: Swimming--

                              "Seeing a side and being able to communicate it are two diametrically opposite things."

                              ??

                              I would have said that the first is a prerequisite to the second.

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