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  • #31
    Originally posted by gh
    Indeed, I'm now getting a memory of Seoul, in which there was a mark (perhaps Flojo semifinal in the 100) where the printed sums came out showing her 10.70w as an OR, and Bob Hersh raised a big enough stink w/ the Technical Delegates (pointing out that they were setting themselves up for a situation where she might set an Olympic Record that was disallowed as a World Record), that they agreed that wind rules should apply. But this last is a vague memory.
    Memories are interesting, aren't they? In my mind's eye, I can remember the room where that discussion took place, and even the position of the desk of the gentleman that I was talking to. But I would have said that that took place in Barcelona, not Seoul. However, looking at the results of all of the sprints and hurdles in those two Olympics, I realized you were correct in every detail.

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    • #32
      The current IOC Olympic record lists definitely consider wind a factor. I provided those lists for them (for all sports that can have records actually - including rowing and canoeing, which really only have bests), but they are based on work done originally by Richard Hymans (athletics only). However, they've been edited quite a bit and checked by Richard back in the late 80s and early 90s. We list all of the 1936 long jump marks as windy as described above by Garry.

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      • #33
        KDFINE, you have added to the list but was it legal or wind assisted, the 8.09
        of Greg Bell. Does that 65 ATFS alltime list show anymore wa jumps at 8.00 or longer ?

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        • #34
          I'm still waiting for an answer KDFINE. You have the list.
          Is the 8.09 you mentioned windy or legal and on which day in OCT 56 did it occur. Have we missed any windy performances prior to 1960.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by dadme
            I'm still waiting for an answer KDFINE. You have the list.
            Is the 8.09 you mentioned windy or legal and on which day in OCT 56 did it occur. Have we missed any windy performances prior to 1960.
            Greg Bell's 8.09 (26' 6 1/2") from 1956 was legal and was the longest jump in the world that year.
            Bell did it at one of the US pre olympic meets on Oct 20 in Ontario, Calif.
            (Leamon King ran one of his 10.1s during the same meet)

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            • #36
              To DADME. I wasn't ignoring you. I just didn't read this post again until after Anderson provided the answer that Bell's 8.09 was legal. Beside's I'd surmised on this forum that windy jumps were only provided where they exceeded an athlete's best legal jump. Since Bell had two legal 8.10s his 8.09 had to have been reported as legal. (This of course ignores that subsequently others have reported that Owens' Olympic victory actually was wind aided.)

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              • #37
                To KDFINE, thanks for replying

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bob H
                  Originally posted by gh
                  I'm now getting a memory of Seoul, in which there was a mark (perhaps Flojo semifinal in the 100) where the printed sums came out showing her 10.70w as an OR, and Bob Hersh raised a big enough stink w/ the Technical Delegates (pointing out that they were setting themselves up for a situation where she might set an Olympic Record that was disallowed as a World Record), that they agreed that wind rules should apply.
                  I would have said that that took place in Barcelona, not Seoul. However, looking at the results of all of the sprints and hurdles in those two Olympics, I realized you were correct in every detail.
                  Definitely not in every detail. Flo Jo's 10.70w could not have been announced as an OR, since she had already run run a wind-legal 10.62 in the quarterfinals. Perhaps gh meant her 10.54w in the final?
                  Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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