MOST INSANE SPLITS IN RACE

[twittering debutante]

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Dave Bedford ran a 59.9 first lap of a 10K at the Crystal Palace in 90 degree heat in 1971.

[Ramey7882]

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On MJ's 18.5 200m relay split, i guess he got the batton like 10m behind and just smoked the guy and ended up winning the race by a good 3m. the most impressive split of ALL TIME is MJ's 9.2 final 100m of his 19.32 WR. to have run 10.12 on a curve is crazy enough, but to run a 9.2 after having already ran 100m is just disgusting. That guy was just ridiculous and a freak of nature.

[EPelle]

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Fresno Relays announcer April 1989 stated on the end of the men:s 4x100m relay that Quincy Watts ran his anchor leg in 8,6 seconds (in a close runner-up race to the finish with TCU:s Raymond Stewart -- who ran a 9,97 open four weeks later in Waco).

[trackworld]

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>Has anyone ever heard that MJ ran a split of 18.9 on a 4X200 relay while at
>Baylor? It's too bad that it was handtimed!

I have read that MJ ran a 18.5 split (which is what you are talking about) whilst at Baylor in the 4x200 at the Texas Relays in 1990. Many Statisticians quote this split as being unreliable, but the ATFS 2002 Annual lists it in MJ's career section without any doubts.

Does gh or anyone else out there know the exact deal with this infamous sub-19 split?

[old guy]

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Has anyone ever heard that MJ ran a split of 18.9 on a 4X200 relay while at Baylor? It's too bad that it was handtimed!

[trackworld]

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>The LA times claims the Bullet's split was officially 8.6

There are always disputes over what the exact split was. Some say it was 8.5 or 8.6, however the handtimers caught Hayes between 8.6-8.9. I have timed his split many times (from my Video-Tapes) and the most accurate figure I can get is in the 8.7s

[Powell]

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Another recent example - Ayhan's 60.5 1st lap in Paris 1500. Surely,
>with aless erratic pace she would have beaten Tomashova. Mind you, she ran
>the 1st lap in Munich a year earlier even faster, in 60.14 but got away with it
>(just - beating Szabo by 2/100ths).

She didn't know any other way to run. On at least a couple of occasions she ran the first lap in under 60! Compared to the average pace for the entire race, that's like El G opening in 52.5.

[bambam]

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>The LA times claims the Bullet's split was officially 8.6

8.6 is what I've always heard

[JohnG]

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I've also been thinking of some insanely slow splits. One example
>would be the Athens women's 5000 final, with the first 600 run in 2:04 (roughly
>17:13 pace!!!). The most amazing thing is that after such an opening Defar went
>on to run 14:45.

Abbylegesse ran the 3rd k in 2:46.66 - 13:52 pace!! Wit such an up and down pace you can understand how Defar only needed a 68 last lap to win.

Another recent example - Ayhan's 60.5 1st lap in Paris 1500. Surely, with aless erratic pace she would have beaten Tomashova. Mind you, she ran the 1st lap in Munich a year earlier even faster, in 60.14 but got away with it (just - beating Szabo by 2/100ths).

[JohnG]

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>Johnny Gray's 48 second first lap in the 800 final at the 1996 Olympics. I
>belive that he ran 1:44 and change with splits of 48 plus & 55 plus. He
>really set the table for Rodjal and Sepeng.

I agree that Johnny Gray's tactics are best described as 'crazy'. I don't think you can describe the splits of anyone such as Paula or Wilson as 'crazy' when they go on to set a WR & win the race (and in Paula's case, maintain roughtly the same pace!).

Gray's split in Atlanta was actually 49.55 on the way to 1:44.21. To be fair to him, roughly the same tactics in Barcelona (49.99 at bell) had won him a bronze. If you want a really crazy split for a major 800, look no further than Coe's 49.3 on the way to his ECh bronze in '78 (1:44.8).

Further back in time, Bedford's opening 2k in the Munich 10k was suicidal. 60.2 first lap and a 2k 6.2 seconds inside WR schedule. Imagine: that's like someone running the first 2k in a major champs today in approx 5 mins 10!

[Powell]

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'Officially'??? Who ratified it?

[richxx87]

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The LA times claims the Bullet's split was officially 8.6

[slowpoke]

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8.0? Wow, that would be amazing if he did that! But that's just it - he didn't. It was timed at 8.9. Go look it up. Now, who is this King fella? I'm going to kill you if you don't tell me!!! Argh!!!!!

Update: King as in King Carl? Am I right?

[eldrick]

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>King Carl once ran an 8.9 100m split in the relays. But what's more amazing is
>Bob Haye's 8.9 split which he did on a DIRT track.<


rubbish !

hayes split was


8.0

[fatman]

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How about 56 (previous PR=58) for a HS freshman on the way to a 2:04 800 meters. Same guy: 2:57 as a college senior en route to a 4:18 anchor of a DMR. Apparantly, sense of pacing was not on the coaching agenda in the intervening 8 years!