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  • #16
    Re: US Olympic Relay Teams in 68

    I remembered a 4x1 team with Carlos and T.Smith on it beating the US OG team. Or at least I thought I did, so I looked it up. Annoying habit, that.

    And there it is, in Vancouver, B.C., on September 28 '68, following the USFOT and before the Games.

    US B beats US A, both in 39.1. The A team was the same foursome in the same order as at the Games: Greene, Pender, R.R. Smith and Hines. The B team was Charlie Mays (#3 long jumper), Larry Questad (#3 200), Carlos and T.Smith.

    From the T&FN story: "Ronnie Ray tool the baton with a healthy lead over Carlos, but Carlos gobbled it up and Tomkmie beat Hines on the last leg."

    The story also mentions that Smith won what must have been the easiest 45.2s in history, as he beat a distant second-placer, 47.7. Smith shut down in the last 35 yards, nearly walking across the finish. The story said he was trying to run his way onto the 4x4 team.

    Oh, and an interesting tidbit from the T&FN preview edition. The OG team was going to run with the baton in the right hand. Greene starts in right hand; Pender takes with left, shifts to right; Smith takes with left, shifts to right; Hines takes with left, no shift. Curious.

    Perhaps just a part of the evolution to the now common, right-left-right-left, albeit somewhat skewed in U.S. history for some 15 years by Carl Lewis's idiosyncracy of taking with the left and shifting to the right even though he anchored.

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    • #17
      Re: US Olympic Relay Teams in 68

      That's great info. I love this forum!
      Peace
      JP

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      • #18
        Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

        I always thought the 64' US Olymoic team was the first team to break 3:00 in the 4X 400 meter relay. Didn't they run 2:59:6 with Henry Carr anchoring with a 44.8 split? I believe Larrabee, and U. Williams were on that team also, but I can't remember the 4th member.

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        • #19
          Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

          Ollan Cassell, and they ran a WR 3:00.7.

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          • #20
            Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

            Thanks. I must be having illusions. Ollan Cassell is/ was the Editor of the great sports publication known as Track & Field News)?

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            • #21
              Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

              >Thanks. I must be having illusions. Ollan
              Cassell is/ was the Editor of the great sports
              publication known as Track & Field News)?<

              You must be kidding.

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              • #22
                Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                I think jpreyor1 is asking a straight question and does not know who Ollan is, only that he's somehow connected with the sport.

                Ollan was the Executive Director of USA Track & Field for many years, up to about 6 years ago. Prior to USATF's ( fomerly TAC ) creation about 1980, he was the head honcho at the AAU during most of the 70's.

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                • #23
                  Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                  Wasn't the first sub 3:00 at Pan Am Games in 1966?

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                  • #24
                    Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                    no, it was in 1966, at, I think, a "USA vs. World " meet that was put together at the last minute as the USSR pulled out of a scheduled dual meet in protest over US involvement in Viet Nam. I might be wrong on the meet but it was that same summer. Ryun ran his 3:51.3 at one of them.

                    The US team ran a virtually unopposed 2:59.6. Lee Evans, Tommie Smith, and 2 others I cannot remember right this instant. Might have been Bob Frey as one of them.... somebody help me here !

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                    • #25
                      Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                      You must have missed the post by Russ7291 (above). He said the other member was Teron Lewis....

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                      • #26
                        Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                        I mean Theron Lewis.

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                        • #27
                          Re: First Sub- 3 minute 4 X 4

                          oh heck, Lynn, I would have remembered Theron if I had taken a few minutes to think about it, but I was late to an appointment so I bailed out. At least I got Frey right.

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