US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

[Johnny Mo]

Relatively new to this forum so please excuse if this has been raised / discussed previously. My request for information really follows on from the recent debacles with the US men's relay teams over the past few years. Can can anyone enlighten me on the circumstances surrounding the disqualification of the US Men's 4 x 100 relay team in the 1960 Rome Olympics and what was the team (in race sequence) and who was committed the 'offence'? Does anyone have a picture of the relay team ?
I can only assume (from the result / line-up of the Men's 100m individual final) members of the squad were Dave Sime, Frank Budd, Ray Norton plus one other - is this correct ? Thanks.

[Double R Bar4]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

The Rome Olympics were the first to be televised around the world. I remember watching the men's 4X1 relay. The U.S. team was Frank Budd, Ray Norton, Stone Johnson, and Dave Sime. Budd's pass to Norton was out of the zone. Norton's pass to Johnson was poor, but in the zone. Sime started about six or seven feet behind Martin Lauer on the anchor leg. Sime crossed the finish line first, but of course the U.S. was disqualified. The Germans equalled the world record that they had run in the heats.

[paulthefan]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

gosh Id love to see the film of that last leg.. any idea where it could be found?

[louise tricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Sime started about six or seven
>feet behind Martin Lauer on the anchor leg. Sime crossed the finish line
>first, but of course the U.S. was disqualified. The Germans equalled the world
>record that they had run in the heats.

and just an aside...martin lauer is NOT related to matt lauer (as i had heard somewhere) i asked matt last year in athens!

[gh]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Yes, the Lauer thing originated with me (blush), and was subsequently retracted by me last fall

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/tfn/di ... age=132824

[Double R Bar4]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Actually Matt Lauer is a pretty decent anchor.

[ltricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

now that's funny...
but when i asked him about his hurdling ability ..........

[ltricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

>Yes, the Lauer thing originated with me (blush), and was subsequently retracted
>by me last
>fall

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/tfn/di ... ?forum=1&t
>read=9593&message=132824

so...when i felt like an idiot last summer suggesting that his favorite event was that evening......and then subsequently telling him why i said it - and he said, i was wondering why you said that....ok, garrrrrry, that's another one you owe me!!!!!

[jlightnin]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Didn't Martin Lauer also run the 110 high hurdles?

[slowcoach]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

>Didn't Martin Lauer also run the 110 high hurdles?


Yes, but he was mediocre. ;-)

[gh]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

<<so...when i felt like an idiot last summer
>suggesting that his favorite event was that evening......and then subsequently
>telling him why i said it - and he said, i was wondering why you said
>that....ok, garrrrrry, that's another one you owe me!!!!!>>

Except that the thread in question wasn't initiated until 3 months AFTER the Olympics.

[ltricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

>>Didn't Martin Lauer also run the 110 high hurdles?


Yes, but he was
>mediocre. ;-)

huh...4th in the 60 olympics behind hayes jones...mediocre - or is that a joke???

[ltricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Except that the thread in question wasn't
>initiated until 3 months AFTER the Olympics.

so....when and how did you learn that he was not related????????
and what made you(and me)think he was?????

[slowcoach]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

>>>Yes, but he was mediocre. ;-)

huh...4th in the 60 olympics behind hayes
>jones...mediocre - or is that a joke???



Yes it was a joke. See the smiley/winky. He was 4th twice. And was the first man to run 13.2

Incidentally, he was beaten by Lee Calhoun in 56 and 60. Hayes Jones won in 64.

[louise tricard]

Re: US Men's 4x100m relay - 1960 Rome Olympics

Yes it was a joke. See
>the smiley/winky.

ok...just checking................