Indoor 5000 Meter records

[eastcoach]

Any additions to these lists of the top 10 indoor high school 5000 meters?

Boys All-time Top 10 Indoor 5000 Meters

Brad Hudson 1984 14:29.28
Scott Fuqua 2002 14:39.74
Nurani Sheikh 2002 14:44.42
Mohamud Ige 2005 14:53.10
Aden Ahmed 2005 15:00.21
John Crews 2002 15:03.50
Isaac LaFond 2002 15:06.14
Sean Quigley 2003 15:06.77
Stephen Shay 2004 15:12.74


Girls All-time Top 10 Indoor 5000 Meters
Brianna Jackucewicz 2004 16:43.02
Cassie Hintz 2005 16:45.82
Cathy Shiro 1983 16:52.48
Cathy Shiro 1983 16:57.50
Alyssa McKaig 2003 17:09.08
Cassie Hintz 2005 17:12.27
Alyssa McKaig 2003 17:19.27
Lindsay Van Alstine 2003 17:24.89
Heather Zimmerman 1983 17:26.54

[bekeselassie]

Probably some kid from Kenya ran close to 13:00, but that's not what you're looking for, huh?

[eastcoach]

No, Indoor United States High School times. What was the time Brad Hudson broke, or was he the first to establish the record?

[bekeselassie]

Sorry, I just had to be a little obnoxious. Can't help you. I don't know squat about High School. Eldrick, Dakota? This up your alley?

[mcgato]

I recall seeing Ann McGranahan running a fast indoor 5000 in Gainesville, FL, when she was a senior in HS. I do not remember the time, but it could have been in the 17 teens. She went on to a successful career at Villanova and beyond. I remember commenting on it at the time on the old track and field darkwing email list. Find the archives to that and you may find it. It was probably around 1997.

[gh]

HS indoor 5Ks are so rarely contested that an all-time list doesn't really mean much. Hudson may have been about the first prep ever to run one, but in terms of intrinsic value, his 14:29 remains far inferior to the 3M best of 13:37.0 by Dave Merrick, which is the equivalent of 14:05.0. Until a boy runs that fast the times remain relatively meaninless.

[CookyMonzta]

Re: Indoor 5000 Meter records

Any additions to these lists of the top 10 indoor high school 5000 meters?

Boys All-time Top 10 Indoor 5000 Meters

Brad Hudson 1984 14:29.28
Scott Fuqua 2002 14:39.74
Nurani Sheikh 2002 14:44.42
Mohamud Ige 2005 14:53.10
Aden Ahmed 2005 15:00.21
John Crews 2002 15:03.50
Isaac LaFond 2002 15:06.14
Sean Quigley 2003 15:06.77
Stephen Shay 2004 15:12.74


Girls All-time Top 10 Indoor 5000 Meters
Brianna Jackucewicz 2004 16:43.02
Cassie Hintz 2005 16:45.82
Cathy Shiro 1983 16:52.48
Cathy Shiro 1983 16:57.50
Alyssa McKaig 2003 17:09.08
Cassie Hintz 2005 17:12.27
Alyssa McKaig 2003 17:19.27
Lindsay Van Alstine 2003 17:24.89
Heather Zimmerman 1983 17:26.54

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Gerry Lindgren ran 13:40.0 in 1964.

[CookyMonzta]

Re: Indoor 5000 Meter records

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Gerry Lindgren ran 13:40.0 in 1964.

My bad! I just dug up my old Runners' World 1982 Annual issue. Gerry Lindgren ran two miles in 8:40.0 in 1964. Dave Merrick ran 3 miles in 13:37.0 in 1971, which converts to around 14:10 for 5K.

[Conor Dary]

HS indoor 5Ks are so rarely contested that an all-time list doesn't really mean much. Hudson may have been about the first prep ever to run one, but in terms of intrinsic value, his 14:29 remains far inferior to the 3M best of 13:37.0 by Dave Merrick, which is the equivalent of 14:05.0. Until a boy runs that fast the times remain relatively meaninless.

Didn't Merrick run that at Illinois's oversized indoor track?

[gh]

No, that was in the AAU meet on MSG's old boards. Breaking HSR of 13:37.8 set by Lindgren in the same meet in '64. Lindgren's mark worth roughly 14:05.8. So the Hudson mark sinks farther into insignificance.

[Oletimer]

relatively meaningless?

What is meaningless about running the third (or whatever) fastest time ever?

[gh]

It's relative to how much something is contested. To use a ludicrous example, if there was such a thing as the backwards triple jump and Christian Olsson went out and did 30'2 tomorrow, beating a 29'5 by Walter Davis, and then the next day I went out and did 11'1, should there be much significance attached to my being No. 3 on the all-time list?

That's a reductio ad absurdum, but given the dearth of indoor 5Ks both before and after Hudson, his mark loses a lot of relevance, as evidenced by how fast the top end of the 3M list is from when national-class preps ran at that distance.

It's not a put-down, just a statement of sheer statistical analysis.

[Oletimer]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Conor Dary]

No, that was in the AAU meet on MSG's old boards. Breaking HSR of 13:37.8 set by Lindgren in the same meet in '64. Lindgren's mark worth roughly 14:05.8. So the Hudson mark sinks farther into insignificance.

Wow, than that is an incredible mark to run that fast on that little track. Dave Merrick is one of the great fogotten H.S. talents of that era.

[dj]

No, that was in the AAU meet on MSG's old boards. Breaking HSR of 13:37.8 set by Lindgren in the same meet in '64. Lindgren's mark worth roughly 14:05.8. So the Hudson mark sinks farther into insignificance.

Wow, than that is an incredible mark to run that fast on that little track. Dave Merrick is one of the great fogotten H.S. talents of that era.

Merrick was a very worthy link in the HS distance chain of Lindgren-Riley-Prefontaine-Merrick-Virgin.