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  • Trickstat
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    As a spectator at the 1990 European and 1993 World Champs, I will say that it seemed to me that the spectators were probably more fascinated and entertained by Christian Schenk using the straddle in the Decathlon HJ than they were by the fact that he was jumping higher than all his competitors.

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  • tandfman
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    Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
    I concede the superiority of the flop.
    I don't doubt the superiority of the flop, for the jumper. You can jump higher that way. For the spectator, I think the straddle is superior aesthetically.

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  • dukehjsteve
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    We former Straddlers are, and should always be, The Chosen People.

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  • jc203
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    :-) I managed to straddle for about forty years of my life and never felt "crotch threatened" whereas prior to foam landing pits flopping was in the same risk category as tuariki's long jump style!
    I believe the straddle is the more naturally intuitive technique. If you were faced with a barrier to climb over you'd certainly try to get your shoulders up and over the top, then get one leg over and roll to finish, while climbing up to do a backbend and drop headfirst would be counter intuitive and the last thing anyone would try.
    Example: This kid fence climbing is modeling great straddle position by way of pure instinct.
    Instinctive Mode to Scale a High Barrier....jpeg

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  • lonewolf
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    I concede the superiority of the flop. I regret I never learned it. My career concluded 15 years before foam rubber and the flop was invented. I was not really a HJer but in the 1940s straddling 8 inches above my height was respectable and scored points. Now guys my height (5-9) routinely jump 7 feet...and don't even place.

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  • tandfman
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    I think I agree with gh on this.

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  • Atticus
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    The straddle always gave me shudders at its inelegance and crotch-threatening positioning. I did it my junior year in HS, but was not very interested in practicing or competing.
    When I saw Fosbury do his thing in the 68 OG (beginning of my Sr year), I immediately took to it, teaching myself in my school's indoor pit (big chunks of foam in a net), and LOVED the feeling.
    I went undefeated outdoors, up to the NE championships. You can see why I'm a fan!

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  • dukehjsteve
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    You should have seen my father shoot two hand set shots !

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  • Pego
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    Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
    I prefer, by far, the flop. Watching the straddle is like watching a 1950's basketball player shoot set shot...or worse....dunk.
    I liked the old-fashioned below-the-rim basketball as is still played by HSs and women .

    Oh, yes, I still remember Iolanda Balas kicking ass by scissoring.

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  • NotDutra5
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    I prefer, by far, the flop. Watching the straddle is like watching a 1950's basketball player shoot set shot...or worse....dunk.

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  • gh
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    Originally posted by dukehjsteve View Post
    I'm "from the Old School". and proud of it. The Straddle was a Thing of Beauty. Thanks Fosbury & Co., you ruined the High Jump. The only thing uglier than The Flop is the Fibreglass Pole.
    agree 100% on the HJ; disagree 100% on the vault

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  • tandfman
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    Originally posted by dukehjsteve View Post
    I'm "from the Old School". and proud of it. The Straddle was a Thing of Beauty. Thanks Fosbury & Co., you ruined the High Jump. The only thing uglier than The Flop is the Fibreglass Pole.
    Do you feel the same way about cars replacing horse-drawn carriages? 🙂

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  • Trickstat
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    Being a mere 52, the flop has largely been the norm during my time watching the sport. Notable exceptions being Ackerman, Bielschmidt and Schenk (oddly I never saw Yashchenko (RIP) compete during his brief career). For me, the one weakness for a spectator of the straddle is that all failures look the same to me at normal speed while a narrow failure with the flop can be clearly seen as such.

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  • dukehjsteve
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    I'm "from the Old School". and proud of it. The Straddle was a Thing of Beauty. Thanks Fosbury & Co., you ruined the High Jump. The only thing uglier than The Flop is the Fibreglass Pole.

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  • Per Andersen
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    Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post
    Found a picture of McDaniel's winning jump in 1956 in the USOC Report - here it is - not sure if this is a straddle or a Western Roll

    McDanielHJ.jpg
    It's a straddle. Rezkova was also a straddler as you suggest.
    Dukehjsteve is of course correct about Dumas.
    Thinking back on these things I find it strange that only 4 men won gold with that technique. Best straddle technique: Yaschenko and Brumel. Finest straddle technique I ever saw was Ackermann's.

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