OK, I've poked around the NYRR site and changed search parameters and found some more detail. It's still not a complete dataset on NYRR but I've been able to add a few more bits and pieces.
I've done quality control as much as I can, so it's probably as good as it's going to get from public sources.
I'm not going to maintain the data, but the data set is available in .xlsx format to anybody who wants it at the following link:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/726802
Just a reminder not to trust any download on a free service like sendspace, so run your virus checker over the file before you open it.
If you have any questions, ask them in this forum.
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Thanks for all of the above incredible information!!
I'm still surprised that Nick Willis doesn't lead the list for the men, as to races completed!!
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I did a bit more cross checking on women's married names and all country affiliation and found a few more inconsistencies, which are now corrected.
As a result I edited the table above for the following:
Brit McRoberts now harmonised to Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen as per WA profile. This increased her number of competitions from 7 to 8 with the final year extending from 1989 to 1990.
Relevant post above: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...09#post1724709
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I just had a post of athletes with the most wins disappear into the unapproved ether, so I'll try another list, this time the top 25 times overall.
You will need to take the times with a small pinch of salt because times were published variously to the full second, tenths or hundreths. Some races event had a mix of hundreths for the top finishers and tenths for those lower down.
Apart from those to the hundreth, it's not clear if the others were hand timed to the tenth or rounded from auto times.
Clearly the whole second times discarded some part seconds but I couldn't find anything more detailed for those years (2003 &2004). Luckily, they were the slowest years with only two men sub-4 in 2003 and 4:10 the winner in 2004.
It's possible that the full times are available in the bowels of the NYRR but I wouldn't bet on it.
Rank Time Name Year 1 4:16.1 Jenny Simpson 2019 2 4:16.2 Elinor Purrier 2019 3 4:16.6 Jenny Simpson 2017 4 4:16.68 Patti Sue Plumer 1990 5 4:17.49 Natalya Artyomova 1990 6 4:17.6 Laura Weightman 2017 7 4:18.30 Jenny Simpson 2016 4:18.3 Jessica Judd 2017 9 4:18.40 Laura Muir 2016 4:18.4 Brenda Martinez 2017 11 4:18.6 Lisa Dobriskey 2008 12 4:18.8 Jenny Simpson 2018 13 4:19.2 Shannon Rowbury 2008 4:19.2 Eilish McColgan 2017 4:19.2 Colleen Quigley 2018 16 4:19.30 Jenny Simpson 2013 17 4:19.40 Jenny Simpson 2014 18 4:19.43 Yvonne Mai 1990 19 4:19.48 Maricica Puica 1986 20 4:19.60 Brenda Martinez 2014 4:19.6 Dominique Scott 2017 22 4:19.70 Heather Kampf 2016 23 4:20.03 Mary Decker Slaney 1988 24 4:20.2 Melissa Courtney 2018 25 4:20.5 Emma Coburn 2018 Rank Time Name Year 1 3:47.52 Sydney Maree 1981 2 3:47.8 Isaac Viciosa 1995 3 3:47.83 Peter Elliott 1990 4 3:48.2 Stephen Kipkorir 1995 5 3:48.39 Steve Cram 1990 6 3:49.40 Eric Jenkins 2016 7 3:49.50 Matthew Centrowitz 2016 3:49.5 Jake Wightman 2021 9 3:49.59 Mike Boit 1981 10 3:49.77 Steve Scott 1983 11 3:49.9 Craig Mottram 2005 12 3:50.10 Ross Donoghue 1983 13 3:50.30 Colby Alexander 2016 3:50.3 Oliver Hoare 2021 15 3:50.4 Sam Prakel 2021 3:50.4 Jake Heyward 2021 17 3:50.48 Thomas Wessinghage 1981 18 3:50.5 Nick Willis 2008 3:50.5 Bernard Lagat 2011 20 3:50.52 William Tanui 1990 21 3:50.6 Bernard Lagat 2008 22 3:50.7 Gennaro Di Napoli 1995 23 3:50.72 Sydney Maree 1983 24 3:50.78 Steve Cram 1981 25 3:51.00 Jordan McNamara 2014 3:51.00 Garrett Heath 2014 3:51.0 Vincent Ciattei 2021
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Here's the athletes with the most wins:
Wins Athlete Years 8 Jenny Simpson 2011 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2 Maricica Puica 1984 1986 2 Regina Jacobs 1994 1998 2 Paula Radcliffe 1996 1997 2 Kim McGreevy 2000 2001 2 Theresa Du Toit 2003 2004 2 Carmen Douma-Hussar 2005 2007 2 Shannon Rowbury 2009 2010 5 Nick Willis 2008 2013 2015 2017 2019 4 Isaac Viciosa 1995 1996 1997 1998 3 Peter Elliott 1987 1989 1990 2 Steve Scott 1983 1988 2 John Itati 2001 2003 2 Jake Wightman 2018 2021
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Interesting while looking at this to see the names of the various sponsors over the years. Pepsi, Mercedes, Discover Card, New Balance.
For a couple of years in the mid-90's it was the Donald J. Trump 5th Avenue Mile.
The backstory:
https://lopemagazine.com/2018/10/04/...-sponsor-nyrr/Last edited by wamego relays champ; 09-19-2021, 06:00 PM.
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Here's a table of the winners by country and gender:
Country F M Total USA 23 12 35 GBR 6 7 13 NZL 6 6 KEN 1 4 5 ESP 5 5 CAN 4 1 5 ROU 3 3 RSA 2 2 MAR 2 2 IRL 1 1 2 BRA 1 1 AUS 1 1 Total 40 40 80
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Thanks to gm for the final year of data. I have now updated the tables and the only change from yesterday was Jim Spivey getting an additional competiton in due to 1996.
I've updated the men's table and also corrected Country affiliation as far as possible - this was not a priority for NYRR.
I've also extended the women's table down to those with 6 competitions.
For both tables, I've now sorted in by Competitions, then First Year, to give a better idea of the eras.
Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year Heather Kampf USA 9 2010 2019 Jenny Simpson USA 9 2011 2019 Christina Boxer Cahill GBR 8 1981 1990 *Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen CAN 8 1981 1990 Diana Richburg USA 7 1982 1989 Shannon Rowbury USA 7 2008 2015 Lynn Williams CAN 6 1981 1989 Sara Hall USA 6 2006 2011 Hannah England GBR 6 2009 2014 Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year John Walker NZL 9 1981 1989 Ray Flynn IRL 8 1981 1989 Steve Scott USA 8 1981 1990 Sydney Maree USA 8 1981 1992 Jim Spivey USA 8 1983 1996 Nick Willis NZL 8 2006 2019 David Torrence USA 8 2008 2015 Jama Aden SOM 7 1983 1991 Marcus O'Sullivan IRL 7 1987 1996 Bernard Lagat USA 7 2008 2015
* Edited to correct record for Brit McRoberts. Now harmonised name to Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen to increase her count from 7 to 8 with the final year extending from 1989 to 1990.Last edited by El Toro; 09-20-2021, 10:12 AM.
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Originally posted by El Toro View PostIf anybody can track down the full 1996 results, I'll add that to my list but I'm not going to go looking for it myself.
Sept 1996 would have been the fall of Bernard's freshman year at WSU, when he was 3 months shy of his 22nd birthday.
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Originally posted by aaronk View PostWho has run (and finished!) the most 5th Avenue Miles in its 40 year history?
I'm obviously talking of the elite division only!
My guess is Simpson for the women, and Nick Willis for the mn!
But I could be wrong.
The missing data doesn't seem to interfere with answering the question becaue all the athletes with seven or more appearances don't span that year.. I've posted the tables below. If anybody can track down the full 1996 results, I'll add that to my list but I'm not going to go looking for it myself.
Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year Jenny Simpson USA 9 2011 2019 Heather Kampf USA 9 2010 2019 Christina Boxer Cahill GBR 8 1981 1990 Brit McRoberts CAN 7 1981 1989 Shannon Rowbury USA 7 2008 2015 Diana Richburg USA 7 1982 1989
Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year John Walker NZL 9 1981 1989 Nick Willis NZL 8 2006 2019 Sydney Maree USA 8 1981 1992 David Torrence USA 8 2008 2015 Ray Flynn IRL 8 1981 1989 Steve Scott USA 8 1981 1990 Bernard Lagat USA 7 2008 2015 Jama Aden SOM 6 1984 1991 USA 1 1983 1983 Jim Spivey USA 7 1983 1994
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I'd guess that the New York Road Runners Club magazine back issues has results that may be "pretty" deep.
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Originally posted by El Toro View Post
I had a look to see if this could be done and it probably could, EXCEPT the database only has the winners (M/F) for 1986. That lack of data sort of kills the project right there.
I couldn't find any complete results online for 1986 but if somebody can find full results for both sexes for that year, I might look at it again.
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