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  • El Toro
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    OK, I've poked around the NYRR site and changed search parameters and found some more detail. It's still not a complete dataset on NYRR but I've been able to add a few more bits and pieces.

    I've done quality control as much as I can, so it's probably as good as it's going to get from public sources.

    I'm not going to maintain the data, but the data set is available in .xlsx format to anybody who wants it at the following link:

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/726802

    Just a reminder not to trust any download on a free service like sendspace, so run your virus checker over the file before you open it.

    If you have any questions, ask them in this forum.

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  • aaronk
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    Thanks for all of the above incredible information!!
    I'm still surprised that Nick Willis doesn't lead the list for the men, as to races completed!!

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  • El Toro
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    I did a bit more cross checking on women's married names and all country affiliation and found a few more inconsistencies, which are now corrected.

    As a result I edited the table above for the following:

    Brit McRoberts now harmonised to Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen as per WA profile. This increased her number of competitions from 7 to 8 with the final year extending from 1989 to 1990.

    Relevant post above: https://forum.trackandfieldnews.com/...09#post1724709

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  • El Toro
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    I just had a post of athletes with the most wins disappear into the unapproved ether, so I'll try another list, this time the top 25 times overall.

    You will need to take the times with a small pinch of salt because times were published variously to the full second, tenths or hundreths. Some races event had a mix of hundreths for the top finishers and tenths for those lower down.

    Apart from those to the hundreth, it's not clear if the others were hand timed to the tenth or rounded from auto times.

    Clearly the whole second times discarded some part seconds but I couldn't find anything more detailed for those years (2003 &2004). Luckily, they were the slowest years with only two men sub-4 in 2003 and 4:10 the winner in 2004.

    It's possible that the full times are available in the bowels of the NYRR but I wouldn't bet on it.

    Rank Time Name Year
    1 4:16.1 Jenny Simpson 2019
    2 4:16.2 Elinor Purrier 2019
    3 4:16.6 Jenny Simpson 2017
    4 4:16.68 Patti Sue Plumer 1990
    5 4:17.49 Natalya Artyomova 1990
    6 4:17.6 Laura Weightman 2017
    7 4:18.30 Jenny Simpson 2016
    4:18.3 Jessica Judd 2017
    9 4:18.40 Laura Muir 2016
    4:18.4 Brenda Martinez 2017
    11 4:18.6 Lisa Dobriskey 2008
    12 4:18.8 Jenny Simpson 2018
    13 4:19.2 Shannon Rowbury 2008
    4:19.2 Eilish McColgan 2017
    4:19.2 Colleen Quigley 2018
    16 4:19.30 Jenny Simpson 2013
    17 4:19.40 Jenny Simpson 2014
    18 4:19.43 Yvonne Mai 1990
    19 4:19.48 Maricica Puica 1986
    20 4:19.60 Brenda Martinez 2014
    4:19.6 Dominique Scott 2017
    22 4:19.70 Heather Kampf 2016
    23 4:20.03 Mary Decker Slaney 1988
    24 4:20.2 Melissa Courtney 2018
    25 4:20.5 Emma Coburn 2018
    Rank Time Name Year
    1 3:47.52 Sydney Maree 1981
    2 3:47.8 Isaac Viciosa 1995
    3 3:47.83 Peter Elliott 1990
    4 3:48.2 Stephen Kipkorir 1995
    5 3:48.39 Steve Cram 1990
    6 3:49.40 Eric Jenkins 2016
    7 3:49.50 Matthew Centrowitz 2016
    3:49.5 Jake Wightman 2021
    9 3:49.59 Mike Boit 1981
    10 3:49.77 Steve Scott 1983
    11 3:49.9 Craig Mottram 2005
    12 3:50.10 Ross Donoghue 1983
    13 3:50.30 Colby Alexander 2016
    3:50.3 Oliver Hoare 2021
    15 3:50.4 Sam Prakel 2021
    3:50.4 Jake Heyward 2021
    17 3:50.48 Thomas Wessinghage 1981
    18 3:50.5 Nick Willis 2008
    3:50.5 Bernard Lagat 2011
    20 3:50.52 William Tanui 1990
    21 3:50.6 Bernard Lagat 2008
    22 3:50.7 Gennaro Di Napoli 1995
    23 3:50.72 Sydney Maree 1983
    24 3:50.78 Steve Cram 1981
    25 3:51.00 Jordan McNamara 2014
    3:51.00 Garrett Heath 2014
    3:51.0 Vincent Ciattei 2021

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  • El Toro
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    Here's the athletes with the most wins:
    Wins Athlete Years
    8 Jenny Simpson 2011
    2013
    2014
    2015
    2016
    2017
    2018
    2019
    2 Maricica Puica 1984
    1986
    2 Regina Jacobs 1994
    1998
    2 Paula Radcliffe 1996
    1997
    2 Kim McGreevy 2000
    2001
    2 Theresa Du Toit 2003
    2004
    2 Carmen Douma-Hussar 2005
    2007
    2 Shannon Rowbury 2009
    2010
    5 Nick Willis 2008
    2013
    2015
    2017
    2019
    4 Isaac Viciosa 1995
    1996
    1997
    1998
    3 Peter Elliott 1987
    1989
    1990
    2 Steve Scott 1983
    1988
    2 John Itati 2001
    2003
    2 Jake Wightman 2018
    2021

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  • lonewolf
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    Incredible compilation. Thank you and Congrats.

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  • wamego relays champ
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    Interesting while looking at this to see the names of the various sponsors over the years. Pepsi, Mercedes, Discover Card, New Balance.

    For a couple of years in the mid-90's it was the Donald J. Trump 5th Avenue Mile.
    The backstory:
    https://lopemagazine.com/2018/10/04/...-sponsor-nyrr/
    Last edited by wamego relays champ; 09-19-2021, 07:00 PM.

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  • El Toro
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    Here's a table of the winners by country and gender:

    Country F M Total
    USA 23 12 35
    GBR 6 7 13
    NZL 6 6
    KEN 1 4 5
    ESP 5 5
    CAN 4 1 5
    ROU 3 3
    RSA 2 2
    MAR 2 2
    IRL 1 1 2
    BRA 1 1
    AUS 1 1
    Total 40 40 80

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  • El Toro
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    Thanks to gm for the final year of data. I have now updated the tables and the only change from yesterday was Jim Spivey getting an additional competiton in due to 1996.

    I've updated the men's table and also corrected Country affiliation as far as possible - this was not a priority for NYRR.

    I've also extended the women's table down to those with 6 competitions.

    For both tables, I've now sorted in by Competitions, then First Year, to give a better idea of the eras.

    Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year
    Heather Kampf USA 9 2010 2019
    Jenny Simpson USA 9 2011 2019
    Christina Boxer Cahill GBR 8 1981 1990
    *Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen CAN 8 1981 1990
    Diana Richburg USA 7 1982 1989
    Shannon Rowbury USA 7 2008 2015
    Lynn Williams CAN 6 1981 1989
    Sara Hall USA 6 2006 2011
    Hannah England GBR 6 2009 2014
    Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year
    John Walker NZL 9 1981 1989
    Ray Flynn IRL 8 1981 1989
    Steve Scott USA 8 1981 1990
    Sydney Maree USA 8 1981 1992
    Jim Spivey USA 8 1983 1996
    Nick Willis NZL 8 2006 2019
    David Torrence USA 8 2008 2015
    Jama Aden SOM 7 1983 1991
    Marcus O'Sullivan IRL 7 1987 1996
    Bernard Lagat USA 7 2008 2015

    * Edited to correct record for Brit McRoberts. Now harmonised name to Brit McRoberts-Lind Petersen to increase her count from 7 to 8 with the final year extending from 1989 to 1990.
    Last edited by El Toro; 09-20-2021, 11:12 AM.

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  • gm
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    Shadrack Lagat!

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  • wamego relays champ
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    Originally posted by El Toro View Post
    If anybody can track down the full 1996 results, I'll add that to my list but I'm not going to go looking for it myself.
    eTN No. 36 in 1996 lists the top 12, which most likely is incomplete. However it lists in 9th place "Lagat (Ken)." Could this be Bernard Lagat? Or am I forgetting another Lagat of that era?

    Sept 1996 would have been the fall of Bernard's freshman year at WSU, when he was 3 months shy of his 22nd birthday.

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  • El Toro
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    Originally posted by aaronk View Post
    Who has run (and finished!) the most 5th Avenue Miles in its 40 year history?
    I'm obviously talking of the elite division only!

    My guess is Simpson for the women, and Nick Willis for the mn!
    But I could be wrong.
    After a lot of unecessarily difficult graft on they nyrr website and internet searching as well as help from gm on the 1986 data, I managed to pull together results for all years, apart from 1996 and 2020. They did not run an event in 2020, so there's nothing to chase up except for 1996.

    The missing data doesn't seem to interfere with answering the question becaue all the athletes with seven or more appearances don't span that year.. I've posted the tables below. If anybody can track down the full 1996 results, I'll add that to my list but I'm not going to go looking for it myself.

    Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year
    Jenny Simpson USA 9 2011 2019
    Heather Kampf USA 9 2010 2019
    Christina Boxer Cahill GBR 8 1981 1990
    Brit McRoberts CAN 7 1981 1989
    Shannon Rowbury USA 7 2008 2015
    Diana Richburg USA 7 1982 1989

    Name Country Competitions FirstYear Last year
    John Walker NZL 9 1981 1989
    Nick Willis NZL 8 2006 2019
    Sydney Maree USA 8 1981 1992
    David Torrence USA 8 2008 2015
    Ray Flynn IRL 8 1981 1989
    Steve Scott USA 8 1981 1990
    Bernard Lagat USA 7 2008 2015
    Jama Aden SOM 6 1984 1991
    USA 1 1983 1983
    Jim Spivey USA 7 1983 1994

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  • KDFINE
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    I'd guess that the New York Road Runners Club magazine back issues has results that may be "pretty" deep.

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  • gm
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    Or, if you want deeper 1986 results...

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  • Conor Dary
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    Originally posted by El Toro View Post

    I had a look to see if this could be done and it probably could, EXCEPT the database only has the winners (M/F) for 1986. That lack of data sort of kills the project right there.

    I couldn't find any complete results online for 1986 but if somebody can find full results for both sexes for that year, I might look at it again.

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