Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

    Over the last couple of years I've seen various references to, and requests for information on, R.P. Williams, a turn-of-the-century pro sprinter.

    Most of the info available on Williams, in fact the vast majority of stuff I've ever seen on him, is from David Willoughby's 1970 book, "The Super Athletes." And while Willoughby is big on information, he's not strong on facts. Doubtful marks seem just as legitimate to him as authenticated marks.

    Williams has always struck me as being more successful as a self-promoter than as an athlete. Now I've come across the following from Charley Paddock's 1933 book, "Track and Field."

    In an appendix titled "Outstanding Track Achievements," Paddock writes (p.172): "Other immortal professional sprinters include [10 names listed, after he's already spent two paragraphs talking about Harry Hutchens] . R.P. Williams, of New London, Connecticut, claimed a number of astonishing sprint records, and his name still appears in the book as the 'official' holder of many marks, but his competitive record does not compare well against the time with which he is credited. I mention this merely because many sport authorities of to-day, judging solely from Williams' marks, place him among the great sprinters of history. His professional contemporaries did not so rank him."

    Close the book on R.P. Williams. If Paddock can't be trusted on sprinters, throw away the book.

  • #2
    Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

    On matters like this, contemporary reputations mean everything. Hutchens, for example, was a great sprinter and everyone of his day knew it. Aside from such "direct" testimony, 19th century times/performances must be treated with a truckload of salt: there was an enormous amount of exaggeration and nonsense that got reported (or claimed).

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

      I can send you(e mail) information regarding Williams from scoures other than Willoughby if you're interested.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

        Yes, please do, to [email protected]

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

          I to would be EXTREMLY interested in info on RP Williams....

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

            I have a ton of info on Williams. Send what you have to my address and I'll send you what I have.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

              >I can send you(e mail) information regarding
              >Williams from scoures other than Willoughby if
              >you're interested.


              Seems interesting. I would be very grateful if you would also send me some information.

              Send to [email protected]

              Thankyou

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

                >>I can send you(e mail) information
                >regarding
                >Williams from scoures other than
                >Willoughby if
                >you're interested.


                Seems
                >interesting. I would be very grateful if you
                >would also send me some information.

                Send to
                >[email protected]

                Thankyou

                I sent you some( not all) information about Williams.Some of the attachments are too large and I have to rescan them into a smaller version.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

                  Thankyou very much for your information,
                  It has been much aprreciated.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: R.P. Williams (pro sprinter)

                    I've probably have more information on Williams than anybody...I've researched him for years.If someone with an open mind would like to examine the facts let me know.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      go ahead...

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eldrick
                        go ahead...
                        Whats your email address.The info I have is in PDF format.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          How about posting an executive summary?

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jeffh58
                            Originally posted by eldrick
                            go ahead...
                            Whats your email address.The info I have is in PDF format.
                            I'd like to see it - can you e-mail it to me at [email protected]?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gh
                              How about posting an executive summary?
                              I second the motion.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X