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    i was wondering, of all the great 200 m runners, who would be considered among the worst 100 m sprinters????

  • #2
    Spearmon must rank up there.
    Guess most of the 200-400 types would fit in here.

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    • #3
      i think wally has never looked to run a 100 consistently & therefore his actual 100pb is highly unlikely to represent his true abilty ( remember x-man had not run a 100 in ?2y until this year & that was a ~ 10.35 from then - it was pretty obvious from his 20.02 last year, he had to be worth quicker than that - & he showed that with a 10.09 earlier this season )

      i'd be very surprised if wally is not at least 10.15 - 10.20, considering how fast he runs the stretch

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      • #4
        Good question - without cheating, noone springs to mind.

        Reversing the question, I'd nominate Big Bad Ben as the worst 100 to 200 guy.

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        • #5
          Henry Carr?

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          • #6
            now now people... what are your favorite places to travel to?

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            • #7
              Here are guys who ran sub 20.00,s who did little, if anything, in the 100 on the world stage.

              Kederis
              Floyd Heard
              John Regis
              Usian Bolt
              Jeff Williams

              Henry Carr was a 9.3 guy when the record was 9.1. Tommie Smith a 9.3/10.1 guy.

              Early WR's

              1900 Walter Tewksbury, USA 22.2
              1904 Archie Hahn, USA 21.6 OR
              1908 Bobby Kerr, CAN 22.6
              1912 Ralph Craig, USA 21.7
              1920 Allen Woodring, USA 22.0 .....bingo!!!!!!

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              • #8
                Here are guys who ran sub 20.00,s who did little, if anything, in the 100 on the world stage.

                Kederis
                Floyd Heard
                John Regis
                Usian Bolt
                Jeff Williams

                Marcin Urbas. Without doubt.

                Not only the worst 100m runner of the bunch, but crap at 200m too.

                In defence of Heard and Regis they did both run on 37.7 relay squads and were no worse at 100m than the likes of Lorenzo Daniel or Kirk Baptiste.

                Claudinei DaSilva probably belongs in this group at 10.13.

                Jeff Williams did have one good year at 100m. This is his sequence in coming 4th at the 1996 trials, when he missed making the Olympic team by 0.04 seconds.

                heat 10.02
                QF 10.07
                SF 10.05
                Final 10.06


                1920 Allen Woodring, USA 22.0 .....bingo!!!!!!
                This guy had a world record ratified for 100 yards in 1921

                There was a guy called Walter Rangely who won a silver behind Percy WIlliams who doesn't appear to have left much trace at 100 in that era.

                The 200m medalists from Rome in 1960 don't strike me as the most talented bunch of short sprinters. (*cough*Livio Berruti*cough*)

                Gilles Queneherve and Elliott Quow both have world championship 200m silverware, wouldn't want to vouch for their 100m bona fides.

                Since the thread specifies this needs to be a "great" 200m man with a lousy 100, what about Peter Norman?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Narrion

                  I'd nominate Leonard Scott as perhaps the worst....have you seen how he fades after the 1st 50m of each 100 meter race.
                  Believe it or not, Scott has run 20.38 and 20.08w. I think he'll improve before he's done. Of the fast 60m sprinters who could just hang on for a sub 10 clocking, I'd guess Jason Gardener and Tim Harden would stink the most at 200m. None of these three are exactly world beaters outdoors though. Amongst other lower tier sprinters, the Nigerians Seun Ogunkoya 9.92 / 20.50 and Olu Fasuba 9.85 / 20.52 merit consideration.

                  Andre Cason was a higher calibre talent, and although he probably had potential, he was short and explosive and never did anything at 200m. Even he has a windy 20.11 (+4.0) though.

                  It's actually pretty hard to find a genuine medal threat at 100m who can't run a reasonably compentant deuce.

                  ETA

                  The post I was responding to has disapeared!

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                  • #10
                    How about MJ?

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                    • #11
                      How about MJ?

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                      • #12
                        All sub-20 with a PB over 10s

                        10.45 - (1966) - Tommie Smith (19.83) (best manual 10.1?)
                        10.35 - (2005) - Wallace Spearmon (19.89)
                        10.30 - (1999) - Marcin Urbas (19.98)
                        10.20 - (2006) - Jordan Vaden (19.98)
                        10.15 - (2001) - Konstadínos Kedéris (19.85)
                        10.15 - (1993) - John Regis (19.87)
                        10.14 (converted from 9.9)- (1969) - John Carlos (19.92) (his best electronic time was 10.32)
                        10.12 - (1999) - Claudinei Quirino da Silva (19.89)
                        10.11 - (1985) - Kirk Baptiste (19.96)
                        10.10 - (1991) - Floyd Heard (19.88)
                        10.09 - (2006) - Xavier Carter (19.63)
                        10.09 - (1994) - Michael Johnson (19.32)
                        10.08 - (1986) - Lorenzo Daniel (19.87)
                        10.07 - (1976) - Donald Quarrie (19.86)
                        10.04 - (2006) - Tyson Gay (19.70)
                        10.03 - (1988) - Joe DeLoach (19.75)
                        10.02 - (1996) - Jeff Williams (19.87)
                        10.01 - (1979) - Pietro Mennea (19.72)
                        10.00 - (1988) - Robson Caetano da Silva (19.96)


                        and for Usian Bolt (19.88) I can't find a 100m performance.

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                        • #13
                          How about Millard Hampton and Dwayne Evans? I can't remember any 100 times for those two.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Per Andersen
                            How about Millard Hampton and Dwayne Evans? I can't remember any 100 times for those two.
                            Evans had a 10.20 from '81.
                            Hampton had a 9.7 100y as a 16 year old. Was also on the 4x1 gold US squad at Montreal. Can't find any 100m time for him.

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