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  • What happened to the standing jumps?

    Does anyone know why and when the standing jumps were discontinued as official events? I think seeing a human jump 11' from a standing start would be pretty cool.

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    Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

    >Does anyone know why and when the standing jumps
    >were discontinued as official events? I think
    >seeing a human jump 11' from a standing start
    >would be pretty cool.

    They were discounted as major events after the 1912 Stockholm Olympic Games.

    The World Records for Men & Women's standing jumps(according to the 1999 Edition of the Guiness Book of Records) are as follows;

    Men SLJ: 3.71m,(12ft 2in)by Arne Tveraag(Norway/NOR)in 1968.

    Women SLJ: 2.92m,(9ft 7in)by Annelin Mannes(Norway/NOR)in March 1981.

    Men SHJ(Standing High Jump): 1.90m(!)
    (6ft 2 3/4 in)by Rune Almen(Sweden/SWE)at Karlstad,Sweden on 3rd May 1980.

    Women SHJ: 1.52m,(4ft 11 3/4 in)by Grete Bjordalsbakka(Norway/NOR) in 1984.

    The following information comes from David Wallechinsky's 'The complete book of the Olympics'(2000 Edition)

    The 3 medallists in each of the three standing jumps from every OG from 1900-1912 were:

    Standing High Jump
    1904 St Louis
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 1.60m (5ft 3in)
    2nd place, Joseph Stadler(USA) 1.45m (4ft 9in)
    3rd place, Lawson Robertson(USA) 1.45m (4ft 9in)

    1906 Athens
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 1.56m (5ft 1 1/4in)
    =2nd place, Leon Duport(BEL) 1.40m (4ft 7in)
    =2rd place, Lawson Robertson (USA) 1.40m (4ft 7in)
    =2nd place, Martin Sheridan(USA) 1.40m (4ft 7in)

    1908 London
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 1.575m (5ft 2in)
    =2nd place, John Biller(USA) 1.55m (5ft 1in)
    =2nd place, Konstantinos Tsiklitiras(GRE) 1.55m
    (5ft 1in)

    1912 Stockholm
    1st place, Platt Adams(USA) 1.63m (5ft 4in)
    2nd place, Benjamin Adams(USA) 1.60m (5ft 3in)
    3rd place, Konstantinos Tsiklitiras(GRE) 1.55m
    (5ft 1in)
    Platt & Benjamin Adams were both brothers. Platt was 27 yo & Ben was 22yo at the time of competing in the 1912 Stockholm OG.

    Standing Long Jump
    1900 Paris
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 3.30m (10ft 10in)
    2nd place, Irving Baxter(USA) 3.135m
    (10 ft 3 1/4in)
    3rd place, Emile Torcheboeuf(FRA) 3.03m
    (9ft 11 1/4in)

    1904 St Louis
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 3.476m (11ft 4 7/8in)
    2nd place, Charles King(USA) 3.28m (10ft 9in)
    3rd place, John Biller(USA) 3.26m (10ft 8 1/4in)

    1906 Athens
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 3.30m (10ft 10in)
    2nd place, Martin Sheridan(USA) 3.095m (10ft 1in)
    3rd place, Lawson Robertson (USA) 3.05m
    (10ft 0in)

    1908 London
    1st place, Ray Erwy(USA) 3.335m (10ft 11 1/4in)
    2nd place, Konstantinos Tiklitiras(GRE) 3.235m (10ft 7 1/4in)
    3rd place, Martin Sheridan(USA) 3.23m (10ft 7in)

    1912 Stockholm
    1st place, Konstantinos Tsiklitiras(GRE) 3.37m (11ft 0 3/4in)
    2nd place, Platt Adams(USA) 3.36m (11ft 0 1/4in)
    3rd place, Benjamin Adams(USA) 3.28m (10ft 9in)

    Standing Triple Jump
    1900 Paris
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 10.58m (34ft 8 1/2in)
    2nd place, Irving Baxter(USA) 9.95m
    (32 ft 7 3/4in)
    3rd place, Robert Garrett(USA) 9.50m (31ft 2in)

    1904 St Louis
    1st place, Ray Ewry(USA) 10.54m (34 ft 7 1/4in)
    2nd place, Charles King(USA) 10.16m (33ft 4in)
    3rd place, Joseph Stadler(USA) 9.60m (31ft 6in)

    I have more info on Standing Jumps , if you want any more info e-mail me on;

    [email protected]

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    • #3
      Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

      That exclamation point of the 1.90 ( 6' 2 3/4" ) "world best" HJ is on the money !

      HJ'ers out there, anybody ever tried this ??

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      • #4
        Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

        I've no idea what happened to these events, but I wouldn't bet that even 100 years ago, someone realized that these were not very interesting for the spectators. We should not be looking for opportunities to add events that are likely to turn off fans and would-be fans, and I think the standing jumps would do just that.

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        • #5
          Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

          In Tsiklitiria, the annual Green Grand Prix in Athens (Trikala in 2003), there is usually a standing long jump competition included to honor of course the memory of Tsiklitiras who won numerous Olympic medals in the standing events.
          2002 results (I don't think they had it in 2003):
          1. ARMENIAKOS Emilios GRE 3.23
          2. ISIHOS Antonios GRE 2.99
          3. ARVANITIS Evangelos GRE 2.99
          4. KOKKORIS Georgios GRE 2.95
          5. ZACHOS Dimitrios GRE 2.89

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          • #6
            Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

            >In Tsiklitiria, the annual Green Grand Prix in
            >Athens (Trikala in 2003), there is usually a
            >standing long jump competition included to honor
            >of course the memory of Tsiklitiras who won
            >numerous Olympic medals in the standing
            >events.
            2002 results (I don't think they had it
            >in 2003):
            1. ARMENIAKOS Emilios GRE 3.23
            2.
            >ISIHOS Antonios GRE 2.99
            3. ARVANITIS Evangelos
            >GRE 2.99
            4. KOKKORIS Georgios GRE 2.95
            5.
            >ZACHOS Dimitrios GRE 2.89

            Read Greek instead of Green!

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            • #7
              Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

              >That exclamation point of the 1.90 ( 6' 2 3/4"
              >) "world best" HJ is on the money !

              HJ'ers
              >out there, anybody ever tried this ??

              I believe that Javier Sotomayer or Charles Austin could do a standing high-jump over 2m, as they are both very explosive.

              And possibly Stefan Holm, he seems very springy.

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              • #8
                What happened to the standing jumps?

                Would an athlete's standing high jump technique be much different than what is executed when one is being measured for "vertical leap"? It appears so, as the best standing high jump heights approach 6 feet and change, while even the verified verticals of the springiest basketballers vary between 3 and 4 feet from a standstill. What accounts for the difference?

                When my dad was a Boston schoolboy in the late 1950's, city track meets still included the standing broad as an event. When I was a little kid he told me he had jumped 8'6" once.

                Bijan

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                • #9
                  Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                  Yes.
                  Standing High Jump technuiques used to be(and probably still are, if the event is even rarely contested) either;

                  Eastern roll/straddle,
                  Scissor kick &
                  Fosbury flop.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                    The King,

                    then the acceptable way to start a jump then, would probably be with legs apart, both on ground, simulating the last step of a run, then rocking back then blasting forward and UP ?

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                    • #11
                      Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                      No, the legal technique was the same as in the other two standing jumps. Feet together, taking off both feet simultaneously. No rocking, no taking off one foot.

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                      • #12
                        What happened to the standing jumps?

                        Is there an official WR for height jumped above one's own stature, and if so, does Franklin Jacobs own it?

                        I'd still be interested to see the technique employed by trackmen in a standing jump that allows the best to clear a bar far higher than say- the vertical leap of a Michael Wilson (touches an 11'10" rasied basketball rim), David Thompson or Darrell Griffith.

                        An aside, is it true Thompson won the ACC triple jump competition in his first year of participation in the event? I recall reading that in "SI" and hearing track coaches say it.

                        Bijan

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                        • #13
                          Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                          >Is there an official WR for height jumped above
                          one's own stature<

                          No, there is not.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                            >I've no idea what happened to these events, but I
                            >wouldn't bet that even 100 years ago, someone
                            >realized that these were not very interesting for
                            >the spectators. We should not be looking for
                            >opportunities to add events that are likely to
                            >turn off fans and would-be fans, and I think the
                            >standing jumps would do just that.

                            I disagree. I think people can relate to the standing jumps, because they likely have participated in them in PE class and in regular childhood play.
                            There used to be an exhibit (maybe there still is) at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago that involved the standing long jump. A person could jump and compare his/her mark to that of Ray Ewry. It was a pretty popular exhibit.
                            Also, It seems a bit silly to say that events like the standing jumps would be the thing that could turn off fans and would-be-fans from watching Track and Field. Do you really think that an event that could be run concurrently with other events, giving fans the option of watching or ignoring, would drive them away? Similarly, can you actually imagine a person thinking "well, I was going to make track and field my hobby but when I found out they have standing jumps I got pissed and went for pottery instead"? I can't. I would love to see the standing jumps included in some meets again.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What happened to the standing jumps?

                              >The King,

                              then the acceptable way to start a
                              >jump then, would probably be with legs apart,
                              >both on ground, simulating the last step of a
                              >run, then rocking back then blasting forward and
                              >UP ?

                              Yep.
                              That was the way which was displayed most when standing hig-jumping(or SLJ and STJ for that matter)

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