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  • Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

    I am going to start the argument, going by event...BTW, I do not include athletes who won individual gold in a different event, so no Seb Coe in the 800, I did include relay gold medalists who won no individual golds.

    Men:
    100m - Ralph Metcalfe, USA
    200m - Frank Fredericks, NAM
    400m - Butch Reynolds, USA
    800m - Wilson Kipketer, DEN
    1500m - Hicham El Guerrouj, MAR or Steve Cram, GBR
    5000m - Ron Clarke, AUS
    10000m - Henry Rono, KEN
    110H - Greg Foster, USA
    400H - Harald Schmid, FRG
    3000st - Moses Kiptanui, KEN
    Marathon - Bill Rodgers, USA
    LJ - Mike Powell, USA
    TJ - Jaoa de Olivera, BRA
    HJ - Dwight Stones, USA
    PV - Bob Gutowski, USA
    SP - John Godina, USA
    DT - Wolfgang Schmidt, GDR
    JT - Janusz Sidlo, POL
    HT - Aleksey Spiridonov, URS
    Dec - Tomasz Dvorak, CZE

    Women
    100m - Marlies Gohr, GDR
    200m - Merlene Ottey, JAM
    400m - Jarmila Kratochvilova, TCH
    800m - Ana Quirot, CUB
    1500m - Mary Slaney, USA
    3000/5000m - Sonia O'Sullivan, IRL
    10000m - INgrid Kristiansen, NOR
    100H - Pam Ryan, AUS
    400H - Marina Stepanova, URS
    Marathon - Grete Waitz, NOR
    LJ - Fiona May, ITA
    HJ - Tamara Bykova, URS
    SP - Helena Fibingerova, TCH
    DT - Tsvetanka Khristova, BUL
    JT - Daniela Jaworska, POL
    Hept/Pent - Romana Neubert, GDR

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    Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

    Women
    100 Meter Hurdles: Gail Devers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    4x4 Relay Team: 1988 Seoul Team

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    • #3
      Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

      wayne, you missed one of Slowrunner's caveats; he did not include anyone that won in another event.

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      • #4
        Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

        My additions:
        110H-Skeets Nehemiah (USA)
        100H-Ginka Zagorcheva (Bulgaria)
        "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
        by Thomas Henry Huxley

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        • #5
          Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

          and I would pull out Cram, as El G is a clear cut choice. And anyway, if anyone would be second it would be Ryun, not Cram.

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          • #6
            Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

            >and I would pull out Cram, as El G is a clear cut
            >choice. And anyway, if anyone would be second it
            >would be Ryun, not Cram.

            I put in Cram as a second choice as El G is still active & can change things next year. Cram/Ryun is an interesting comparison, I have to think about it.

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            • #7
              Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

              I think Coe would have to be the guy at 800m.

              He got 2 1500 wins but none at 800 and he was the WR holder for a very long time.

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              • #8
                Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                I've thought about Cram vs. Ryun - very similar.

                Both won silver medals at the Olympics in their prime & did not win a medal in their other Olympics. Cram was closer with a 4th in '88, although Ryun never got the chance to run in the '72 final.

                Both ranked #1 in the world in the 2 years prior to the Olympics, but while Ryun never ranked #1 again, Cram did 4 more times, '85-'88.

                Both set world records in the mile that lasted for 8 years. Ryun set two world records at 1500, Cram set one.

                Cram won a world championship, Ryun never had the opportunity.

                Cram lived in an age of dawning professionalism in track which allowed him to compete at the highest level for another 4 years. This opening of track also increased the competition as other athletes were able to do the same.

                Ryun had only two "great" runners as adversaries, Kip Keino and later, Marty Liquori. Cram faced Seb Coe and Said Aouita, although Aouita never concentrated solely on 1500.

                Largely on the basis of his 6 #1's to Ryun's two, I would still stick with Steve Cram. Interestingly, it seems as though Cram's legacy has been much more quickly forgotten (at least here in the USA) than Ryun by his inability to win Olympic gold.

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                • #9
                  Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                  >My additions:
                  110H-Skeets Nehemiah
                  >(USA)
                  100H-Ginka Zagorcheva (Bulgaria)


                  I know that I'm gonna got a lot of stick for picking this guy over 'Skeets' but;

                  110H-Colin Jackson (GBR)

                  And another one of my picks,
                  Men's Triple Jump-Willie Banks(USA)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                    >I've thought about Cram vs. Ryun - very
                    >similar.


                    >Cram lived in an age of dawning
                    >professionalism in track which allowed him to
                    >compete at the highest level for another 4 years.
                    >This opening of track also increased the
                    >competition as other athletes were able to do
                    >the same.

                    At the great risk of starting another huge argument, I personally wouldn't say that lack of professional opportunities kept Ryun from competing at the highest level for another 4 years.

                    Ryun had only two "great" runners
                    >as adversaries, Kip Keino and later, Marty
                    >Liquori. Cram faced Seb Coe and Said Aouita,
                    >although Aouita never concentrated solely on
                    >1500.

                    I don't think Aouita ever entered an Olympic 1500.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                      Gutowski over Warmerdam, Fredericks over Harold Davis? Absurd. Stones over Steers is a little closer. But Godina over Torrance or Fuchs, and Schmidt over Gordien are just about as modernistically (a word?) myopic.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                        Steve WIlliams
                        Houston McTear

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                        • #13
                          Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                          careful billthedog, someone will make fun of your age again, but YOU ARE RIGHT.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                            >>I've thought about Cram vs. Ryun -
                            >very
                            >similar.


                            >Cram lived in an age of
                            >dawning
                            >professionalism in track which allowed
                            >him to
                            >compete at the highest level for another
                            >4 years.
                            >This opening of track also increased
                            >the
                            >competition as other athletes were able to
                            >do
                            >the same.

                            At the great risk of starting
                            >another huge argument, I personally wouldn't say
                            >that lack of professional opportunities kept Ryun
                            >from competing at the highest level for another 4
                            >years.

                            Ryun had only two "great"
                            >runners
                            >as adversaries, Kip Keino and later,
                            >Marty
                            >Liquori. Cram faced Seb Coe and Said
                            >Aouita,
                            >although Aouita never concentrated
                            >solely on
                            >1500.

                            I don't think Aouita ever
                            >entered an Olympic 1500.

                            He did enter the '88 race, but withdrew after the heats with a hamstring injury.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Best Athletes to Never Win Olympic Gold

                              And, at that, I neglected McKenley in the 400m and Harbig in the 800m. I would think they rank ahead of the current nominees.

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