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  • MJR
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    Robert Korzeniowski's 20k & 50k double in Sydney. The combo of distances involved, competition level, risk of injury and chance of DQ make this the most impressive I can think of. He's also the only person to ever defend the 50k Gold.

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  • abinferno
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    what about Lasse Viren, 10K/5K

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    What about Gerry Lindgren's double at the Kingston, Jamaica meet in the summer of '64, just out of high school? He ran 13:17 for 3 miles, then 4:01.5 for the mile. Remarkable!

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  • BisonHurdler
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    Well, i should correct myself......usually MJ was in the 44.5 range in the semis.......i had read it assuming you were talking about rounds. Disregard my last comment.

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  • BisonHurdler
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    "Imagine a man who could jog through a 400 semi in the Worlds a full 2 seconds off his 400 best and still qualify easily. Not even MJ could get away with that."




    Um.........yes he could, and did, on regular occasion in championships.

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  • Per Andersen
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    No list of "doubles" is complete without Mal Whitfield whom I was lucky enough to see run in his last great season 1953.
    Since I have Cordner Nelson's fabulous work "Track's Greatest Champions" I'll just quote from it.
    "Perhaps his (Whitfield's) greatest accomplishments came as a doubler. In one day of the 1948 Final Trial, he won the 800 in 1.50.6, ran a heat of 400 in 47.3, and won the final in 46.6. Indoors in 1953 he set a Madison Square Garden 880 record of 1.50.9 and came back little over an hour later with a World Record 600 in 1.09.5. On July 29, in Cologne, he ran a 1.48.4 800 and came back in 45 minutes with a 46.2 400. In Finland on August 16, he broke the 1000-meter World Record with 2.20.8. One hour later he ran his American Record 440 in 46.2"
    Nuff Ced.

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  • Pierre-Jean
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    :-}

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  • michael lewis
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    "sorry, i don't master English language, i meant that she reached a level in sp. endurance that no woman had approached then. Since then, maybe Marita Koch, the others are far behind."

    I totally agree. You can say that again.

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  • Pierre-Jean
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    sorry, i don't master English language, i meant that she reached a level in sp. endurance that no woman had approached then. Since then, maybe Marita Koch, the others are far behind.

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  • michael lewis
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    "Kratochvílová reached places where no woman ever came talking about 400m specific endurance."

    You can say that again.

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  • Pierre-Jean
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    If Helsinki's feat is not enough, take Jarmila's afternoon in 1981 Euopean Cup "B": 100m 11.31, 400m 52.10, 4x100m 44.60, 200m 22.40, 4x400m 49.2 anchor...

    Or take one of her training cession at high altitude (hard for recovery!) in 1983 : 4x300m in 36.5 with 20 min reps between...

    Kratochvílová reached places where no woman ever came talking about 400m specific endurance.

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  • michael lewis
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    "Kratochvilova's double had to the toughest I've ever seen. It one thing to race when your tired but to have to race with the lactic acid still fresh in your system from another long sprint race is just brutal."

    Probably not as tough as it would seem at first glance. Imagine a man who could jog through a 400 semi in the Worlds a full 2 seconds off his 400 best and still qualify easily. Not even MJ could get away with that.

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    Kratochvilova's double had to the toughest I've ever seen. It one thing to race when your tired but to have to race with the lactic acid still fresh in your system from another long sprint race is just brutal.

    Its not even close to the same thing but I did the 400 / 800 double as a 15 yr old in a State Championship Jr. olympic meet and all I remember is puking after the 800m and then realizing I had only 45 minutes to get ready for a 400m heat.

    Long sprinters, endure some incredible things because of lactic acid buil-up. They have my utmost respect.

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    Slaney's 1500 / 3000 in 83 WC

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    <The King of All Doubles
    Jesse Owens Big 10s
    May 25, 1935 Ann Arbor, MI
    3:15pm 100y 9.4 EWR
    3:25pm LJ 26'8.25" WR (until 1960)
    3:45pm 220y (200m) 20.3 WRy(WRm)
    4:00pm 220yIH (200mIH) 22.6 WRy(WRm)>

    Not to take anything away from Owens and his day of days in Ann Arbor in 1935. The most demanding (perhaps not the same as outstanding?) doubles would look at the quality of the opposition in each event. If I remember correctly Owens at Ann Arbor had litttle serious challenge in most events. Running with a slightly injured back, he is supposed to have been totally relaxed (due to lack of competition?) and did not expect outstanding times/distances.

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