Long Jump GOAT [split]

[john george]

I don't know how a 400m thread got hijacked by a silly comment by eldrick regarding the LJ, but since we're there, I've got to chime in and say that the notion that Carl is not the GOAT in the LJ is absurd.

Take any LJ performer's 10 best jumps (indoor & altitude included) and Carl's average is probably 8 inches better. Exclude altitude and Carl may be a foot better. Okay statistics people, show us. John George

[tafnut]

And people wonder how one poster can come up with 24090 posts! Wonder no more.

I MIGHT have actually 'borrowed' that from elsewhere . . . ops:

P.S. Bad Hammy actually isn't bright enough to know when I'm insulting him, so don't feel like I'm doing him any disservice, please.

[Albert Caruana]

Good thing it never gets petty on this board.

I feel petty
Oh so petty
I feel petty and witty and (tyson) gay
And I pity
Any guy who isn't me today
I feel harming
Oh so harming
It's alarming how harming I feel
And so petty
That I hardly can believe I'm real.

And people wonder how one poster can come up with 24090 posts! Wonder no more.

[tafnut]

Good thing it never gets petty on this board.

I feel petty
Oh so petty
I feel petty and witty and (tyson) gay
And I pity
Any guy who isn't me today
I feel harming
Oh so harming
It's alarming how harming I feel
And so petty
That I hardly can believe I'm real.

[bad hammy]

Mel Watman's top-10 long jumpers, as printed earlier this year in Athletics Weekly: . . .

As I recall his list was made using a very specific formula allotting points for certain championships, WRs, age of WR, etc. Pretty good overall, but in this case it bumped Beamon up at least a couple of spots I would not because his bogus WR lasted so damn long.

[Albert Caruana]

Good thing it never gets petty on this board.

[Jon]

Mel Watman's top-10 long jumpers, as printed earlier this year in Athletics Weekly:

Men
1 Carl Lewis
2 Mike Powell
3 Jesse Owens
4 Bob Beamon
5 Ralph Boston
6 Ivan Pedroso
7 Peter O'Connor
8 William DeHart Hubbard
9 Dwight Phillips
10 Ed Hamm

Women
1 Heike Drechsler
2 Jackie Joyner-Kersee
3 Galina Chistyakova
4 Elzbieta Krzesinska
5 Mary Rand
6 Kinue Hitomi
7 Heide Rosendahl
8= Anisoara Cusmir-Stanciu
8= Viorica Vicopoleanu
8= Fiona May

[tafnut]

. . . and you're stuck with it!!! :twisted:

Nope, my opinion is quite different . . . :lol:

Yeah, but you're just a bad hammy, and who wants THAT?! :evil:

[bad hammy]

. . . and you're stuck with it!!! :twisted:

Nope, my opinion is quite different . . . :lol:

[tafnut]

. . . at least the women's GOAT is debatable, unlike the men's GOAT which everyone except Eldrick agrees on.

The wGLJOAT is only debatable in tafnut's apparently feeble mind . . .

Hey, as the tafNUT, I am entitled to whatever wacko opinion I want, and that's mine, and you're stuck with it!!! :twisted:

[trackworld]

IMO

Men Top 3 LJers All-time - taking into account WR, Major Championships & T&FN World Rankings up until 2002 ...

1) Carl Lewis (OG Gold - 1984, 1988, 1992 & 1996) (WC Gold - 1983 & 1987) (WC Silver in 1991) (World Ranked No# 1 - 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1992 & 1996) (World Ranked No# 2 - 1986, 1990 & 1991) (World Ranked No# 5 - 1979 & 1994) (World Ranked No # 6 - 1980) (World Ranked No# 7 - 1995)

2) Ivan Pedroso (OG Gold - 2000) (WC Gold - 1995, 1997, 1999 & 2001) (Notable Mention: WIC Gold - 1993, 1995, 1997, 1999 & 2001) (World Ranked No# 1 - 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 & 2001) (World Ranked No# 2 - 1993) (World Ranked No# 4 - 1992 & 2002) (World Ranked No# 5 - 1996)

3eq) Ralph Boston (OG Gold - 1960) (OG Silver - 1964) (OG Bronze - 1968) (World Ranked No# 1 - 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 & 1967) (World Ranked No# 2 - 1968) (World Ranked No# 8 - 1959)

3eq) Mike Powell (OG Silver - 1988 & 1992) (WC Gold - 1991 & 1993) (WC Bronze - 1995) (World Ranked No# 1 - 1990, 1991, 1993 & 1994) (World Ranked No# 3 - 1988, 1989 & 1995) (World Ranked No# 4 - 1996) (World Ranked No# 7 - 1987) (World Ranked No# 10 - 1985)

[bad hammy]

. . . at least the women's GOAT is debatable, unlike the men's GOAT which everyone except Eldrick agrees on.

The wGLJOAT is only debatable in tafnut's apparently feeble mind . . .

[jazzcyclist]

As well as age bests at 16 (6.91m), 17 (6.98m), 18 (7.14m) and 19 (7.40m).

And the best ever by a 35+ year old as well!

Wasn't Carl Lewis 35 when he won Olympic gold in 1996. It's amazing how similar their careers were, though Drechsler was never quite as dominant in the sprints.

[Powell]

As well as age bests at 16 (6.91m), 17 (6.98m), 18 (7.14m) and 19 (7.40m).

And the best ever by a 35+ year old as well!

[jazzcyclist]

JJK may be your sentimental favorite, but there's really no comparison if you lay their resumes side by side.

.

Exactly. And to add to your stats, Drechsler also has 4 european golds, world and european indoor titlkes, the longest recorded junp by a woman ever at 7.63w, the world indoor record (7.37) world junior and senior world records in her career, as well as 20 yrs in the worlds top 10 & the highest ranking score in an event in the TFN rankings.

There really is no comparison.

I don't think it's fair to mention Drechsler's European titles unless you also include Kersee's US titles in the discussion, but even without the European titles, there's still plenty of basis for proclaiming HD the GOAT. But in all fairness to JJK, at least the women's GOAT is debatable, unlike the men's GOAT which everyone except Eldrick agrees on.