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  • Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 80'?

    I always wondered if the top US sprinters would have beaten the Scotsman.

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    Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

    yes

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      Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

      >yes...

      ...to the topic heading or the message content?

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        Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

        >>yes...

        ...to the topic heading or the message
        >content?

        Oops ! I meant to type NO. Wells would not have won if the US had been there IMHO... and sitting here right this minute, I do not even remember who finished 1-2-3 in the US Trials. Any help out there ?

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          Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

          1980 U.S. Trials:
          1. Stanley Floyd
          2. Harvey Glance
          3. Mel Lattany
          4. Carl
          Steve Williams was 5th or 6th and I think McTear was 7th.
          In Moscow Wells did beat Silvio Leonard in the 100 and he beat Quarrie in the 200 for silver. He might not have won with the Americans running but Wells was no pushover.

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            Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

            Since Wells didn't rank No. 1 in the world that year, the obvious answer would be no.

            The other obvious answer is that unless your name was Bob Hayes, run just about any Olympic race more than once and you'll get different winner(s). (slight hyperbole, but rare is the 100 that's that clear-cut)

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              Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

              "The other obvious answer is that unless your name was Bob Hayes, run just about any Olympic race more than once and you'll get different winner(s). (slight hyperbole, but rare is the 100 that's that clear-cut)"

              About the "just about" : Hayes' superiority is unrivalled (among men anyway). Nonetheless I think you could rerun Munich, LA, Seoul (b4 the dq), Atlanta, and Sydney and you'd still get Borzov, Lewis, Johnson, Bailey and Greene.

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                Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                > The other obvious answer is that unless your name was Bob Hayes, run just about any Olympic race more than once and you'll get different winner(s).

                Well, add the Americans to the mix in Moscow and re-run that race a couple of times and maybe the Scotsman can still win one.

                For the sure winner list we can add Morrow and maybe Hary.

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                  Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                  Just as a mind game (knowing that the outcome might differ from race torace...) I think Floyd would have won the 100 ahead of Wells and Leonard. Lattany perhaps fourth.
                  Floyd beat Wells 2-1 after the olympics and seemed to be both speedy and consistant.

                  As fo the 200; Butler, Taylor and Wiley would not have medalled...

                  Fastest of all this year (but out with injury at the OT) was Sanford...

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                    Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                    Maybe yes, and maybe no. Alan Wells peaked well at the Olympics in Moscow winning with the slightest margin over Silvio Leonard of Cuba (a 9.98 runner). Since this was before seeding was used from the rounds Leonard ran in lane 1 and Wells in lane 8, and they never saw each other during the race. After the Olympics Wells beat Stanley Floyd in their first meeting, and said this was the important face off. Stanley Floyd was the College newcomer of the year winning both the NCAA and the Trials. However, the fastest 100m runner of 1980 was James Sanford running 10.02 and 9.88w (+2.3m/s). In the end; Alan Wells will always be the Olympic Champion of 1980!

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                      Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                      < The other obvious answer is that unless your name was Bob Hayes, run just about any Olympic race more than once and you get different winners.>

                      Very interesting point. I always thought that Leonard got a raw deal in that '80 photo finish. Does anybody remember what what was his post Moscow record versus Wells and Lattany after the Olympics?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                        I think we should gather all the surviving finalists from every Olympic 100 final and make them race each other again.

                        We should then retroactively change the Olympic results based on what happens in these races.

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                          Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                          "We should then retroactively change the Olympic results based on what happens in these races."

                          What if none of them finish?

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                            Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                            "What if none of them finish?"

                            They should be allowed to walk if need be.

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                              Re: Would Wells have won the 100 without the US boycott in 8

                              "What if none of them finish?"

                              Heck, what if none of them start? Are any of the '36 male 100m medaliusts still alive: Owens (no), Metcalfe (no), Osendarp (?).

                              Trivia time: Who were the other three finalists?

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